Antivaxers Gone Wild – meet “The Unreasonable Wank”!

Post updated December 22 2015:

After a very quick search it has been established that the owner of the “Bernie Smith” account is Ollie Dutchie, the partner of Giselle Kara Vles, both of Brighton, Victoria.

Their real names are Olivier Vles and Giselle Vles, as seen in this submission to the Victorian No Jab No Play submission. This is the Facebook page for their clothing business.

Publicly available images courtesy of Facebook:

Dutchie 2 Vles pixelated

Olivier Vles (Dutchie) also added the Bernie Smith account to the Unvaccinated Australia Facebook group, where it is an admin, along with Giselle Kara Vles:

Vles 5 Dutchie UA added Bernie Smith

All posts and comments from The Unreasonable Wank Facebook page –  which was created by Olivier and Giselle Kara Vles – are now available here, in text format:
The Unreasonable Wank all threads December 22 2015.pdf.

Original post:

Right now – at this very minute – Melbourne anti-vaccine activists are having a picnic day in Brunswick, in Melbourne. Most of you would already know that Brunswick North West Primary School is now world famous for having low immunisation rates and high chicken pox rates: 80 students struck down with chickenpox in Brunswick school outbreak. Both of these events are happening right now, in one area of Melbourne.

Brunswick map

So, I’d like to contribute to these very same Melbourne anti-vaccine activists – the admins and members of Unvaccinated Australia (UA), who featured in another shocking story only yesterday, about the baby of an anti-vaccine activist being hopitalised with whooping cough – by celebrating with them their creation of a new Facebook page they made in my honour, only a week ago: The Unreasonable Wank.

First I’ll give a special mention to the admins of the UA Facebook group who created or champion the creation of The Unreasonable Wank (TUW):

UA 111 admins Brett Smith Bernie Smith Wiseman Kalinov Vles

The Unreasonable Wank first popped up a week ago with posts in UA and another anti-vaccine group, Anti-Vaccination Australia (which is administered by Belgin Sila Colak). The brand new profile, UA admin Bernie Smith, is the page creator:

UW 1 UA Wiseman Bernie Smith pixelated

And:

UW 2 AVA post liked pixelated

Checking out the TUW page itself is…it’s a work of art…which…it brings a tear to the eye.

The cover photo is a headstone…because they want me dead?

UW 12 headstone pixelated

[Edit: it has just been pointed out to me by Karen on Twitter that this headstone is not a photo-shopped image, as I originally thought. It is a real headstone. The husband passed away in 2005. The wife passed away in 2015. Their relatives and descendants are still very much alive. This makes the actions of the Unvaccinated Australia admins even more disturbing. I have pixelated the updated image, above] 

The profile photo is a masturbating hand…because pr0n:

UW 6 wank hand Howard like

This one tells me I am a “wank stain”…because misfire:

UW 4 wank stain Howard like

And the TUW’s about section notes:

Making fun of the unreasonable wank that calls himself Reasonable Hank.

UW 3 page about pixelated_censored

The contributors to the TUW page have excelled.

Joanne Howard is a registered nurse and midwife who featured in an earlier post, and who will feature again:

To  you Mr Wank!

UW 7 Joanne Howard bird

Brett Smith is the resident anti-vaccination stand-over man who shatters all the myths about love and light:

Special shoutout to our good mate Reasonable Hank who has just found out there is a measles epidemic starting in Sydney right now!!! Good Lord mate our prayers are with you. I hope you’re ok mate? Quickly get yourself another booster shot. Run to the Hills, run for your Life!!!

UW 8 Brett Smith

This is the village idiot and favoured troll of Meryl Dorey and her anti-vaccine cabal, the Australia Vaccination-skeptics Network:

This is also Reasonable Hank.

https://www.facebook.com/Rosalie-Hilleman-700606060056078/

UW 9 Dingo Rosalie

And this is the courageous, anonymous UA admin, and creator of TUW:

Reasonable Hank??? Get your babies ready!!!

UW 10 Bernie Smith

It would appear that all of the people listed above were galvanised into their emotional regression by another post which appeared in the UA group, written by deregistered enrolled nurse, alternative health crackpot and demonstrable liar, Louisa Kenzig, who has featured in this blog before for her rancid vilification of bereaved parents.

On December 3 2015, Kenzig made the following false and defamatory post – about a vexatious and false complaint she made against a doctor – and the anti-vaccination activists piled on over the next two days. I have removed the names of my two friends, as well as my real name, because the anti-vaccination activists make false allegations of paedophilia against one of my friends. The dementing, delusional Louisa Kenzig believes I am all of the people in her post.

So, Unvaccinated Australia admins and members, who are meeting up for a Christmas picnic in Brunswick right now, enjoy your day!

Veritas Aléthia

December 3 2015 at 17:15 · Perth

Anyone else on the receiving end of Reasonable Hank/[Me]/[Dr friend]? After the 4th known complaint about ‘[Dr friend]” behaviour, this is the latest response from AHPRA – bear in mind he called me a baby killer and Reasonable Hank went onto his blog to share as much information about me as he could – complete with twisted facts about what I said and who I am…. He and [me] play tag team and then go on a rant on Reasonable Hank… No wonder the medical system is in such a state –

“The medical board decided to take no further action because –

  1. [Dr friend] did not make comments to you on Facebook which could be perceived as disrespectful, attacking your family’s safety, or exposing your place of residence.
  2. [Dr friend] merely engaged in a debate with you regarding the effectiveness of vaccines.
  3. [Dr friend]’s comments appear to be his personal opinion and not professional advice.”

So a doctor can do or say what he likes publicly, so long as he keeps jabbing away…. All about money.

The comments are as follows.

Sarah O’Reilly and Lynne Hopewell feature in my post regarding anti-vaccinationists attacking the memorial page of Riley Hughes:

Sarah O’Reilly Well if he has been defamatory then you might be able to do something via Constitutional Law which is different to the rubbish system that he is protected under by the look of it.

Lynne Hopewell I commented on a post that was referring to Baby Riley the other day some woman tagged me to Horrible Hanks page but I couldn’t find anything when I went and checked just paid trolls all of them

Veritas Aléthia It would be hilarious how they tag each other – if they weren’t doing exactly what they claim we are doing..

Joanne Howard is a registered nurse and midwife, as noted above:

Jo Howard Type in my name in Google and reasonable Hank, yes I’ve had run ins with the prick. He tried (.unsuccessfully) to get me fired

Veritas Aléthia He had the gall to call the organisers of a health workshop I was scheduled to talk at. For my own safety I had to pull out and allow someone else to do my presentation. Pretty pathetic effort considering the topic that day was helping the lower socio economic to live and eat healthier – nothing about vaccines 😉

Farrah Tate Wow ladies, that is awful  :/

Lynne Hopewell Yep found it http://reasonablehank.com/tag/lynne-hopewell/

the woman that put me there was MICHELLE RAMAGE and I didn’t say anything bad just pointed out that they cant prove that the unvaccinated infected their child

Posts about Lynne Hopewell on reasonablehank

reasonablehank.com

Kate Smith is the partner and business partner of Health Space Clinics chiropractor Adrian Dennewald. They run Denneroll:

Kate Smith He tried to discredit me too. He is a sleaze bag

Kate Smith He keeps everything you write or his moles do.

Sarah O’Reilly Charming character.

Veritas Aléthia What a miserable life to dedicate your days and nights to stalking others. Considering how many of us have been stalked, he was either not breastfed or his mum really hated what she gave birth to 😉

Kate Smith Someone told me reasonable Hank is an [Friend’s former occupation]

Sarah O’Reilly I thought that as well.

Loloma Viti He should change his name to Unreasonable Hank.

Veritas Aléthia Supposedly is but if you go by how much effort is put into this stalking obsession he has, I have a feeling he was sacked. Can’t find any professional info on him but then again he probably has a dozen aliases.

Kate Smith It looks as if they still have moles in this group?? Brittany Smith

Veritas Aléthia Do you mean THIS group? Why?

Kate Smith When I posted a letter to an MP only in this group that night reasonable Hank like a 8 yr old dibber Dobber wrote to the mp and told him that I was associated with a chiropractor and that’s where the abusive letter came from. I told the admins and they rescanned everyone but I believe there are possible moles here

Veritas Aléthia Wow what makes me laugh is that he actually thinks natural therapists are criminals. He did the same with me – tags others to read my comments. I had never heard of him until [Dr friend] tagged me to sick him on me haha. Pretty pathetic. How very dare you ‘associate’ with chiropractors… 😉

Farrah Tate Yes definitely has moles in this group… that is clear from the link Lynne posted.

Trent Wiseman, the UA admin, posted a series of images which were created by troll Ian Hastings to attack myself and my friends; the same images which led to death threats sent to me and my friends by Frank Vazquez. Wiseman became active in the anti-vaccination movement, with his wife, Emma Wiseman – who owns Emma Wise Photography – when the No Jab No Pay legislation was proposed earlier in 2015:

Trent Wiseman It seems as though someone had made [Friend] as hank returned the disrespect and invasion of privacy to which he subjects others

Kate Smith Karma

Trent Wiseman Not even a drop in the ocean of what he deserves. So [Friend], founder of stop the avn, seems to be hank and [Me]. Hank won a sceptics award and [Me] accepted on his behalf, jokes were made about them never being seen together. It’d be safe to assume that with all of the twisted units in savn, it’s likely that a few of them post under [Me] and hank though.
May you all show these guys no more respect than they do us. And to their trolls in this group, get a life. May karma return your malicious behaviour tenfold

Lo Mong Where on earth did you get this poster Trent? LoL it is truly scary but I reckon it is spot on after much research & speaking to the people who have argued with him on Twitter & FB. He is a massive drunk & late at night makes mistakes by answering in different identities!

Veritas Aléthia AHPRA don’t even care that [Dr friend] could be the same person. Someone must be paying him good money…

Kate Smith Has anyone ever seen this reasonable Hank in person?

Veritas Aléthia Not that I am aware of.

Peter Angel Psychopath wanker is the real name of its website.
I’ve been on the site but comodo says don’t go there.

Peter Angel You’ve heard the term ‘don’t feed the troll/s’.

Learn about psychopaths & ignore them. Feeding them is what they get off on.

[posts three YouTube videos]

Trouble is our financial system is run by them, governments are run by them & worst of all our governments are run by big pharma, which is the worst of all the psychopathic industries !

[posts more YouTube and other video links]

Managing extreme personalities: Part two

[posts ten more links]

This is a typical trait of the psychopath where they will place themselves at the center of dramatic events in order to impress people and thereby more easily manipulate them.

Consider now some of the traits of a psychopath drawn up by Dr. Robert Hare, who really is an expert on psychopathy. Hare devised the PCL-R 20 checklist, which is based on Hervey Cleckley’s 16-item checklist, and ask yourself does any of it fit with the known behavior of Thomas Sheridan.
GLIB and SUPERFICIAL CHARM — the tendency to be smooth, engaging, charming, slick, and verbally facile. Psychopathic charm is not in the least shy, self-conscious, or afraid to say anything. A psychopath never gets tongue-tied. They have freed themselves from the social conventions about taking turns in talking, for example. GRANDIOSE SELF-WORTH — a grossly inflated view of one’s abilities and self-worth, self-assured, opinionated, cocky, a braggart. Psychopaths are arrogant people who believe they are superior human beings. NEED FOR STIMULATION or PRONENESS TO BOREDOM — an excessive need for novel, thrilling, and exciting stimulation; taking chances and doing things that are risky. Psychopaths often have a low self- discipline in carrying tasks through to completion because they get bored easily. They fail to work at the same job for any length of time, for example, or to finish tasks that they consider dull or routine. PATHOLOGICAL LYING — can be moderate or high; in moderate form, they will be shrewd, crafty, cunning, sly, and clever; in extreme form, they will be deceptive, deceitful, underhanded, unscrupulous, manipulative, and dishonest. CONNING AND MANIPULATIVENESS- the use of deceit and deception to cheat, con, or defraud others for personal gain; distinguished from Item #4 in the degree to which exploitation and callous ruthlessness is present, as reflected in a lack of concern for the feelings and suffering of one’s victims. LACK OF REMORSE OR GUILT — a lack of feelings or concern for the losses, pain, and suffering of victims; a tendency to be unconcerned, dispassionate, coldhearted, and unempathic. This item is usually demonstrated by a disdain for one’s victims. SHALLOW AFFECT — emotional poverty or a limited range or depth of feelings; interpersonal coldness in spite of signs of open gregariousness. CALLOUSNESS and LACK OF EMPATHY — a lack of feelings toward people in general; cold, contemptuous, inconsiderate, and tactless. PARASITIC LIFESTYLE — an intentional, manipulative, selfish, and exploitative financial dependence on others as reflected in a lack of motivation, low self-discipline, and inability to begin or complete responsibilities. POOR BEHAVIORAL CONTROLS — expressions of irritability, annoyance, impatience, threats, aggression, and verbal abuse; inadequate control of anger and temper; acting hastily. PROMISCUOUS SEXUAL BEHAVIOR — a variety of brief, superficial relations, numerous affairs, and an indiscriminate selection of sexual partners; the maintenance of several relationships at the same time; a history of attempts to sexually coerce others into sexual activity or taking great pride at discussing sexual exploits or conquests. IMPULSIVITY — the occurrence of behaviors that are unpremeditated and lack reflection or planning; inability to resist temptation, frustrations, and urges; a lack of deliberation without considering the consequences; foolhardy, rash, unpredictable, erratic, and reckless.

[posts another YouTube video]

Lindell White The only thing i can think of to say to them anyway begins and ends with the “C” word lol

Brittany Smith Wow that’s awesome – thanks/

Veritas Aléthia The funny thing is, [Dr friend] is a psychiatrist [he isn’t] which is interesting. Speaking to psychologists about his ramblings is a real hoot.

Erin Anne Yep, he went through my facebook account taking screen shots then posted them to forums I had recently commented on. He was warning the public about people like me. I put a complaint into facebook but they just said the photos were removed before they could see them. I blocked him.

Renata Bialkowska is a film school graduate of the University of Technology Sydney. Bialkowska recently used UTS amenities to hold an anti-vaccine seminar which she also filmed as a part of an anti-vaccination documentary she is making:

Renata Bialkowska He also took screen shots from my Facebook which is not public but for friends. So Either we’re friends with a traitor who feeds him or as Peter Angel showed with the warning if you read his website he knows how to hack your account.

Veritas Aléthia Major hacker. A few of us did little ‘tests’ by typing in searches into our google and voila he was talking about the same topics to us. Creep.

Peter Angel Erin Anne & others harassed by these psycho’s !!!

Take your own screenshots & keep exact records of their harassment & REPORT them to the police !!! And make SURE you get a report number !!! Ring the police weekly & keep following up with them until something is DONE ! If enough people do this these scum will be prosecuted & hopefully jailed !

Veritas Aléthia Maybe we do an exposé like a class action to expose just what the medical board are promoting? Especially if we tie in [Dr friend]’s activity. All the screen shots where they have spoken on the same threads and played tag.

Lo Mong Bridge featured in an earlier post for vilifying the mother of deceased baby, Riley Hughes. Lo Mong Bridge discusses how she and her colleagues are planning to have this blog taken down:

Lo Mong Yep Hank’s has a full page written on me. He is trying to ruin my sister’s acupuncture clinic even though she wasn’t even involved in commenting on my thread posts. I’m in the middle of writing a blog page to show how he manipulated my comments, & did not show everything I said including the tragedy of babies dying on both sides, vaccines damaged side as well as the disease side, when I commented on the Light for Riley page. I know we shouldn’t give these trolls more attention then they deserve however don’t you all think we must all blog to show him for what he really is? The public needs to see he is pretending to be a concerned citizen when, really he is paid by pharma to sit there all day & night to attempt to tear people’s reputation & livelihoods apart. I reckon down with this loony!

Peter Angel He needs to be reported to the police for vexatious harassment & any other charge a good lawyer or chamber magistrate can come up with . People need to seek the best free legal advice from several sources.

Lo Mong We have already got advice from a friend at top federal police end who deals with scams & he said its is very costly & drawn out to take it through courts unfortunately   😦
There has to be a way collectively to do this. Hanks has slandered so many professionals, a lot in the chiropractic industry. He even slandered one chiropractor for making a hospital visit to treat her friend! And said she must step down from her chiropractic association. What a nasty piece of works he is! He has tried to defame so many, I was thinking it would be best that we all work collaboratively to bring him down. Renata Bialkowska has a WordPress blog set up specifically for this purpose. She is happy to upload anyones’ written piece against Hanks to set the record straight. Sure one side of the argument is, if we ignore him, we won’t give him much power. However wouldn’t it be better if clients or customers search our names on the internet, they’ll see Hanks’ dirty slandering, but they’ll also come across our articles showing what a dirty game he plays?

Veritas Aléthia To me, as he seethes with loathing re any alternative health professional, seems to come from a medical bias. He sure doesn’t know much about alternative therapies but is obsessive about them Sad that psychopaths are allowed to have computers but the world isn’t fair. The mere fact he selectively copies part comments to make non vaxxers look bad shows how sick he is. In effect he is inflicting more pain on the people who have suffered loss, under the guise of supporting them. A bit like a psychiatrist getting his jollies by torturing sexually abused kids mentally by dragging up all their pain.

Lynette Kennedy Veritas Aléthia this is the first I have heard of this guy just reading through the tread, I had written on the baby Riley article I expressed my sympathy to the family then about my story and how my 4 week old did not get whooping cough after having been doubly exposed to it but my comments were deleted. As he a psychiatrist they say they have the highest suicide rate, so one can only hope or even suggest it to him. He sounds obsessive and very very sadistic also quite mad not just a psychopath. I hope he doesn’t cross my path.

Lo Mong Hanks won Skeptics of the year in 2004. He said in an article that he wasn’t able to go but [Friend] went to collect on his behalf. From what others have said, they were arguing on thread posts with Hanks, & then [Friend] jutted in answering back on the same subject. So I reckon this guy is actually [Friend]! [Me] is just another cover up name.

Veritas Aléthia I knew a [Friend] – he was a paedophile. Lived in my home town and got away with it. Horrid little poison ‘man’ with a small man complex.

Lynette Kennedy Most probably is him they are warped and twisted, you should ask him if he was the paedophile with the same name that lived there.

Veritas Aléthia I did – no answer – just a ton about me on his dodgy page, accusing me of some of the very things he does (attacking bereaved parents, etc).

Kristy Anne McCarrick concern-trolled the Light for Riley memorial page, at the behest of Trevor Simons, who also features in this post of anti-vaccinationists who attacked the Light for Riley page:

Kristy Anne When Light for Riley posted an article regarding a study that allegedly proved the safety of DTaP during pregnancy, I posted that despite these studies, no vaccine manufacturer has claimed safety on any package insert. I then linked to an article that had recently come out, that summarised more recent research on the vaccine (lack of effectiveness in preventing colonisation, possibly encouraging colonisation of b.parapertussis, etc.) I said nothing directly to Riley’s parents, nothing harsh or inflammatory, but a few days later my name was added to a list of those nasty anti-vaxers harassing Riley’s poor parents! It was shocking for me, as I have never condoned that kind of behaviour, and have always encouraged civility and respect when discussing the issue of vaccines. But now if anyone searches my name (and he made sure to say my real last name, even though I had changed to Kristy Anne by that point), that comes up.

Veritas Aléthia Same. He sent me the list with my name on it. All I’d said – after expressing my sadness at their situation, was that there seemed to be a lot of people pretending to be Riley’s family as no way would a bereaved mother be able to be all over every blog on the subject.

Lynette Kennedy If anything all the non vaxxers that I have come across are loving parents and the most sympathetic towards anyone who had suffered the loss of a baby, yet when I have had a look at the pro vax sites it’s full of nasty vitriol and nothing properly researched or educational just full of “conditioned hatred against people who won’t toe the line and conform to be vaccinated. This a new thing because years ago nobody could have cared less what you chose to do. They have to be selected paid trolls, the general public wouldn’t be bothered.

Fiona Elizabeth is Natural Holistic Mum – which changed its  name to Conscious Life Mama – who has been making parody memes out of the public health advocacy images created by the Light for Riley memorial page:

Fiona Elizabeth It is possible to take people to court for online defamation on social media… Kayla did it against freelee banana girl and won, and what she did wasn’t half as ad as what R Hank is doing to many on here … Yes it would be costly, but eventually what he’s been doing will come back at him http://m.adelaidenow.com.au/…/story-fni6uo1m-1227286028720

Bikini Girl and Banana Girl settle their online war

adelaidenow.com.au

Mung Bean Thanks for sharing the link. Good to know it is possible to win. However can you imagine taking the subject of vaccination to court? Regardless if Hanks exaggerated claims, can you imagine what a biased pro vac judge would be capable of? It could turn out to be another attack on us pro choice folks

Fiona Elizabeth Yep true, but the subject wouldn’t be vacc it would always be the harassment… Anyway one day he will harrass the wrong person, ie someone very wealthy who canafford the court process..

Brittany Smith Thanks for taking care of this Trent  🙂

Farrah Tate I am so sorry for what you are going through. Utter defamation. Such despicable behaviour. His site is disgraceful. Someone has now twice added a smut ad on Locanto using my mobile phone number. I have been advised to change my number. Pain that is! I have friends and family who are staunchly pro choice but I’m really shocked they’d share my phone number with someone who would do this to me. I would never do that to anyone.

Sarah O’Reilly How horrible that they would do that to you.

Trevor Simons Wow I’m so out of the loop with this!!

Erin Anne On Friday I typed my name into google search. Up came reasonablehank with my name included as one of the anti vaxxer’s targeting Riley’s parents. I’ve never even been on Riley’s page. He used one comment from an anti vax site I had commented on. All I said was “he probably had Heb B and Vit K but not the whooping cough vaccine.” You should read the comment at the end including people thinking we should have our children removed!! I think it’s defamation.

Veritas Aléthia Yes same happened to me. He is inciting hatred and violence – he needs to be stopped. But he’s such a coward that he’s in hiding.

Adam George Crabb These toilet bugs are just pathetic & how low can they go.

Veritas Aléthia Love it!

Lo Mong Bridge had changed her name to Mung Bean whilst this thread was continuing:

Mung Bean I have been told to contact Google about violation of rights. I have a friend who got blogged saying he killed people or sent patients into hospital with his therapies which were not true. He complained to Google, not the platform which the blog site was hosted on, & he was able to get that total blog removed! So we should all work collabaratively to get his whole website removed!!!

Kristy Anne That’s a great idea, I’d be up for that. If we could band together and submit a joint complaint to Google, it might have more impact. My complaint would probably be a bit weak on it’s own, as he quoted me once, but misrepresented the context.

Mung Bean We have lots of people whom he has tried to defame so they will only be too happy to do this

Veritas Aléthia Anyone up for going through his ramblings? I guess we need to google our names online and screenshot what he has come up with. Take it from there.

Mung Bean I’m happy to go through & collate all the names of people he has vilified. There will be hundreds! However writing is not my strongest point, so maybe I can leave that to someone else?

Veritas Aléthia Happy to proof anything as necessary to make sure it’s worded its best. Also as a few journos are starting to get a little interest, maybe we could get them on board to expose him and draw him out of his cave.

Erin Anne Here is a good place to start. There is a list of us in this article. I didn’t even know Riley’s mum was Young Australian of the Year!!! http://reasonablehank.com/…/sydney-antivaxer-attacks…/

Veritas Aléthia Yup – and nothing for the poor parents whose healthy babies died from vaccine injury….

Mung Bean Thanks for offering to look over my writing Veritas
I think to make the biggest impact, it would be better getting each person to write a personal complaint about how he defamed them. Then we all send it off together so this will make a huge impact. How he has gone about vilifying each person is slightly different so we need to really get down to details of how he has violated each person…..I think we will have a strong case against him with Google.

Veritas Aléthia We also need to use the other names -[Friend], [Dr friend] etc – all involved in some way, if not the same person.

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Death threats from Frank Vazquez of South Australia

This post will be of interest to quite a few readers who have been on the receiving end of death threats, threats of harm, and other abuse from supporter of the Australian Vaccination-skeptics Network, Frank Vazquez of Paralowie, South Australia. More broadly, we’ll see some of the problems one might encounter when attempting to have those who send death threats held legally responsible for their actions.

Vazquez 100 August 2015 photo

Publicly available image courtesy Facebook 2015

Frank Vazquez is a well-known anti-vaccination conspiracy theorist who is infamous for making bomb, arson, and death threats against those with whom he has disagreements. He operates under several Facebook profiles which appear and disappear according to the flow of his paranoia:

Vazquez 44 known accounts

Over the previous two months I have been liaising with South Australia Police after I lodged an Australian Cybercrime Online Reporting Network (ACORN) report. From the outset I will say that the SA Police have been wonderful with this investigation, given the limitations enforced upon them.

There are two sections under the Commonwealth Criminal Code Act 1995 which would apply to most instances of online abuse and death threats:

471.11   Using a postal or similar service to make a threat

Threat to kill

(1)  A person (the first person ) is guilty of an offence if:

(a)  the first person uses a postal or similar service to make to another person (the second person ) a threat to kill the second person or a third person; and

(b)  the first person intends the second person to fear that the threat will be carried out.

Penalty:  Imprisonment for 10 years.

Threat to cause serious harm

(2)  A person (the first person ) is guilty of an offence if:

(a)  the first person uses a postal or similar service to make to another person (the second person ) a threat to cause serious harm to the second person or a third person; and

(b)  the first person intends the second person to fear that the threat will be carried out.

Penalty:  Imprisonment for 7 years.

Actual fear not necessary

(3)  In a prosecution for an offence against this section, it is not necessary to prove that the person receiving the threat actually feared that the threat would be carried out.

Definitions

(4)  In this section:

“fear ” includes apprehension.

“threat to cause serious harm to a person includes a threat to substantially contribute to serious harm to the person.

And the second section:

474.17 Using a carriage service to menace, harass or cause offence

(1)  A person is guilty of an offence if:

(a)  the person uses a carriage service; and

(b)  the person does so in a way (whether by the method of use or the content of a communication, or both) that reasonable persons would regard as being, in all the circumstances, menacing, harassing or offensive.

    Penalty:  Imprisonment for 3 years.

(2)  Without limiting subsection (1), that subsection applies to menacing, harassing or causing offence to:

(a)  an employee of an NRS provider; or

(b)  an emergency call person; or

(c)  an employee of an emergency service organisation; or

(d)  an APS employee in the Attorney-General’s Department acting as a National Security Hotline call taker.

With the threats made against myself and my family the SA Police first needed to get the go-ahead from the Commonwealth Director of Public Prosecutions (CDPP). The CDPP agreed that they would prosecute Vazquez’s death threats against myself and my family, should the SA Police satisfy the usual hurdles: the various profiles must belong to Vazquez; the profiles must resolve to Vazquez’s IP addresses; there must be a log of the comments made at the times shown in the evidence presented; and, the threats must pertain directly to myself and my family. The evidence against Vazquez follows.

December 2013 – October 2014:

Vazquez 34 all PMs threats and abuse

May and June 2014:

Vazquez 30 dms

I will address the above items, first, before we continue with others.

One of the limitations faced by SA Police – to which I alluded, above – was me. I left it too long to report these older threats. This is my fault. I did not address these threats earlier because of a previous demoralising, condescending experience with NSW Police, who belittled previous reports I had taken to them which pertained to sustained abuse being heaped on bereaved parents by anti-vaccine trolls. I didn’t want to go through that again.

Although we know these threats came from Vazquez we could not directly link his IP address to these messages, at the precise time they were sent, as Vazquez uses a mobile phone to administer his multiple profiles. Mobile phone data is only kept for a couple of months by Internet Service Providers. I simply left it too long.

On October 1 2015 – at the exact moment my ACORN report landed in South Australia – the anti-vaccine Facebook page, Refutations to Provax Memes – which is administered by troll Ian Hastings of No Fluoride Australia – posted a meme which was intended to incite anti-vaccination activists into action against Ken McLeod, Reasonable Hank, and Peter Tierney. Anti-vaccine conspiracy theorists believe that I (RH and PT) am Ken McLeod, Peter Bowditch, Rosalie Hilleman, Maureen Chuck, Anne Blake, Courtney McCarthy, and several other names. And, as you can see by the times in this screenshot, Hastings got the desired effect. Vazquez bit:

Vazquez 117 RTPM October 1 2015 both posts

In fact, Vazquez the internet detective thought he’d step it up a notch. I have pixelated all of these images. This is the post he made which appears in the above image:

Vazquez 116 Ken image RTVM October 1 2015 pixelated

Vazquez, who had been escalating his rhetoric again for some months, then sent me another series of private messages on Facebook, on October 4 2015. Vazquez was now including Ken McLeod and Ken’s wife in the death threats. First message:

Vazquez 114 Ken death threats pixelated 1

Second message:

Vazquez 115 Ken death threats pixelated 2

Third message:

Got us [Got youse]

U evil twisted son of a cunt enjoy looking over Your shoulder 24\7 cunt

Your poor wife

Vazquez 104 PM death threat re Ken Karen October 4 2015

The CDPP did not consider these threats to have been made against me, personally. Even though they were sent to me, and these conspiracy theorists believe Ken McLeod and I are the same person, these threats also fell short of the required evidentiary standards.

One other death threat which I sent to SA Police – which was made against Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull in the anti-vaccination group, Anti-Vaccination Australia, on December 2 2015 – is, I believe, still under investigation by a separate authority having been reported by others:

Vazquez 111 Turnbull getting assassinated AVA Dec 2 2015

Only the previous day, in the same anti-vaccination group, on December 1 2015, Vazquez made these threats against Bill Gates:

Vazquez 110 Bill Gates dead child killing monster walking

I’ll include more of Vazquez’s threats against others at the end of this post.

So, that is the end of my current episode with Frank Vazquez. I couldn’t publicise this until now.

So, what do we do if confronted with death threats and abuse from this point on? Report it immediately to ACORN. It really doesn’t take that long to lodge a report. It will be taken more seriously than my previous disheartening experience with NSW Police. The longer you leave it, the more likely the required data will no longer be available when demanded under warrants.

And, remember, there are now precedents set for prosecution under the sections of the Criminal Code Act 1995 noted above. In a notable case, lawyer Mariam Veiszadeh took the brave step of standing up to online abusers with a successful prosecution against one of them, in 2015.

Vazquez’s collection of threats.

June 18 2013: local council officials

Vazquez 9 fucking dead council officials walking

September 6 2013: No Fluoride Australia in agreement with Ian Hastings

NFA 25 Vazquez dead politicians walking

January 9 2014: AVN Facebook page

Vazquez 119 Jan 9 2014 AVN page

March 31 2014: death threat against Dr Paul Offit and family on the Facebook page of the National Vaccine Information Center

Vazquez 28 Paul Offit

July 2014: threats against Tanya Plibersek Shadow Minister for Foreign Affairs

Vazquez 124 July 2014 Tanya Plibersek

July 30 2014: death threat via private message to Martin

Vazquez 118 death threat PM to Martin

January 2015: various death and bomb threats, and accusations of paedophilia, against many people on Michael’s Restaurant Facebook page

Vazquez 52 Michael's comments death threats 1

Vazquez 53 Michael's comments death threats 2

Vazquez 54 Michael's comments death threats 3 bomb threat

January 2015: arson threat against Kareela Golf Club

Vazquez 45 Kareela Golf Club burns down

January 2015: death threats against then-PM Tony Abbott at the time of the Sydney terrorism siege, on the Lindt Cafe Sydney Facebook page

Vazquez 37 death threats Tony Abbott

January 2015: threats against Katrina

Vazquez 125 Jan 2015 KatrinaVazquez 126 Jan 2015 Katrina

Vazquez 127 Jan 2015 Katrina

Vazquez 128 Jan 2015 Katrina

January 2015: threat against Alec

Vazquez 120 January 2015 Alec death threat

January 2015: threat against Brian

Vazquez 121 January 2015 death threat Brian

January 2015: threat against Xandy

Vazquez 122 Xandy threat Jan 2015

January 2015: threat against Natalie

Vazquez 129 Jan 2015 Natalie

I will add to this list as images come in.

For more on the incitement of violence and the escalating violent rhetoric of the anti-vaccination and anti-fluoridation movements please see Beware the violent antis – Lismore Mayor physically assaulted – updated, which features an abridged history of the sustained campaign of abuse and vilification of health activists, journalists, and politicians, by people such as Ian Hastings, Meryl Dorey, Barbara Loe Fisher, and Sherri Tenpenny.

See also Tristan Wells of the AVN calls for the execution of vaccine workers.

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Board member of CAA QLD admits to discussing vaccines with clients who then cease immunising

Repeating a timeline of the troubles we’ve seen in Australian chiropractic over the last few years runs the risk of boring you all to tears. But, it is important. It is important to remind those who are meant to be exemplars of good practice in this regulated health profession that there are indeed standards upon which some – indeed, more than others – of these registered health practitioners should be be keeping an eagle eye. It’s not hard. There are lists of things a practitioner cannot do. It is even written out for them. How good is that?

On May 4 2013, due to a tide of bad press because of the Chiropractors’ Association of Australia’s penchant for anti-vaccinationism, at the highest levels, including Continuing Professional Development courses, the CAA was dragged kicking and screaming into  making a rather non-committal – but, nonetheless, binding – policy announcement:

CAA Position Statement on Vaccination

The CAA (National) Board position on vaccination is:

  • Chiropractors do not provide vaccination services;
  • Chiropractors should encourage their patients to make informed health care decisions and to consult their GP in relation to the risks and benefits of vaccination.

– May 4, 2013 CAA National Board Meeting

On August 8 2013 the Chiropractic Board of Australia sounded the trumpets in a chest-thumping press release regarding the profession’s embarrassing affliction:

The Chiropractic Board of Australia cracks down to protect the public.

The Chiropractic Board of Australia is cracking down on chiropractors who step outside their primary role as healthcare practitioners and provide treatment that puts the public at risk.

To protect public safety, the Board has:

  • ordered practitioners to remove all anti-vaccination material from their websites and clinics
  • removed several courses from the list of approved CPD programs, and
  • introduced random audits of practitioner compliance with the Board’s registration standards.

In November 2013 the president of the CAA, Laurie Tassell, gave his CAA’s ingrates a serve about their online behaviour, and their astonishing reluctance to acknowledge that there are indeed Codes and Guidelines which regulate how a registered health practitioner should act. From Tassell’s President’s  Report, in The Australian Chiropractor magazine:

In my presidential address, I paid particular attention to the major issues that we need to confront:

  1. The unethical use of websites to claim cures for conditions that cannot be supported by research evidence continues to be a major problem for the profession. At the time of the NDF [National Development Forum], the CBA had received 155 new complaints regarding the inappropriate use of websites. This is an issue that continues to astound me. Maybe when some of you receive substantial fines or suspension you will understand the significance of your selfish and unprofessional actions.
  2. The damage to the profession from the unprofessional use of social media – personal attacks on chiropractors who might hold different views to you, bragging about entering hospitals without permission and posting photos with well known speakers openly critical of vaccination are not acceptable. Complaints to the CBA have been lodged and some of you will be subject to disciplinary action. Once something is posted on the net it is in the public domain. Private or closed sites are being accessed and trolled.
  3. I feel it is time for the profession to change the way it tells its story. It is my personal belief that the concepts of conservatism, holism, vitalism and naturalism are central to the practice of chiropractic. However it is my opinion that the discussion of these and other philosophical concepts should take place within the profession. Our external communications should more accurately reflect the nature of our interaction with our patients and be consistent with being a mainstream health care professional. It should also create unity within the profession.

Indeed, dad is angry because the kids are spoilt brats who keep giving everyone the bird and stacking the Beemer. It is only fitting, then, that the very Facebook group to which Tassell alludes – where the “bragging” about sneaking into hospitals was uncovered in 2013: the Australian Chiropractic Philosophy Society (ACPS) – is the very same group from where today’s evidence was also collected.

Adam L Smith 23 admins and members of ACPS

Again, the anonymously-sourced information found in the closed Facebook group ACPS is being published in the public interest, and in the interests of public health and safety. The ACPS Facebook group has 396 members and information from this Facebook group has been published on many occasions. Far from wondering whether or not the members still expect privacy in this group, I find myself wondering only, “what the hell are they thinking?”

One question which does indeed get answered for us is the question of appropriate practitioner conduct in the privacy of the clinical setting; where only the businessperson and the customer are privy to what is done and said. It has long been thought that no matter what empty threats of sanctions are huffed-and-puffed by the CBA; and no matter how much this does indeed coerce some chiropractors into behaving like healthcare practitioners on social media; there is little that can ever be done to ensure that the privacy of that clinical setting is not abused by any practitioners.

There are really only two ways in which the community or regulators can find out what is happening inside the clinic.

The first method we have of finding out what is going on is when a customer makes a complaint about information being provided by their chiropractor. Realistically, this is just not going to happen. The customers are in for a penny, in for a pound with the chiropractic faith. Simon Floreani was cautioned for retaining anti-vaccine misinformation at his business, long after the CBA’s taunts; but, we can only guess what is happening inside the treatment rooms, and guessing doesn’t help anyone.

The second method we have of finding out is when the arrogance of certainty compels a chiropractor to brag to their peers of their disdain for their own Codes and Guidelines. And, sometimes, this does happen. It happened with the aforementioned sneaking into hospitals saga. And every now and then a chiropractor comes right out and plops it on a thread. Paul Lawrence – of vaccines are rape fame – did this on August 22 2013 (also in the ACPS group), bragging to his peers of how he still provided influenza immunisation misinformation to his customers:

Lawrence 5 advised patients about flu vax

When the CBA made its August 2013 declaration against anti-vaccination misinformation, Jennifer Barham-Floreani brazenly stated in public –  the very next day – that she would not be complying with the CBA’s demands. And she’s still registered, for some reason:

But high-profile chiropractors say they will continue providing information about both sides of the vaccination argument.

Chiropractor and author Jennifer Barham-Floreani says it will not stop her colleagues from giving patients advice.

“Chiropractors will certainly be working towards making sure that the information that they convey to parents is the latest, up-to-date information that presents both sides of the vaccination debate,” she said.

So, today’s star is a chiropractor we have met before, in Anti-vaccine chiropractors 11. Here is Mr Adam L Smith:

Adam L Smith practice[d] his business at the Surfers Paradise Chiropractic Centre in Queensland.

In May 2013 he shared a petition created by Meryl Dorey, Australia’s most notorious anti-vaccination zealot. The petition is based on a lie. The title gives it away:  Stop the vilification of parents whose children have been injured or killed by vaccines.

Smith also made these standard anti-vaccine comments:

So your point essentially Scott is that because a lot of people believe injecting their kids with poisonous chemicals that may or may not actually work, everyone should.

There are so many things wrong with the THEORY of herd immunity that I literally can’t even start that discussion typo on my phone. My only point I will make on it is that those who are well read, researched and knowledgable on the topic invariably choose not to vaccinate their children. Yet those who believe everything in the newspapers and media, and thoughtlessly roll up their own sleeves for flu shots etc do vaccinate.

And this awful claim:

The former boost their kids immunity and health in other ways and so far I have not read a media report of an unvaccinated kid dying from any of these diseases. It’s the supposedly protected, vaccinated kids who are getting sick and dying from the very diseases they are supposedly immunised against.

Why, if vaccinations really work is this the case?

Also, sorry for the addition, but the drop in polio cases is not ‘thanks to vaccination’ there are so many other factors at play that reduced the spread first, well before the vaccine was even developed.

Since that 2013 blog post Smith has moved on to another business, called Healthstyle Centre Robina. And Adam L Smith is now also a board member of the Chiropractors’ Association of Australia Queensland. He is the secretary; with his Surfers Paradise Chiropractic Centre colleague, Bruce Whittingham, assuming the presidency:

Adam L Smith 6 board member of CAA QLD

I’ll include some more of Smith’s businesses’ Facebook posts, which I believe are in breach of the National Law, down the page. And I’ll include relevant sections of the Code of Conduct, the Social Media Policy, and the Guidelines for advertising a regulated health service, in an addendum at the end of this post. I will also include two ACPS group threads in further addenda at the end of this post. There is just too much to include here.

On November 23 2015, Trent Headlam of Life Chiropractic Oxenford, and EPIC Healthstyle in Oxenford, attempted to start a discussion of the recently passed No Jab No Pay legislation, in the ACPS group, by citing what he believed to be a quote by Adolf Hitler (it isn’t). I include this for context. As noted, I’ll put the whole thread in an addendum:

Trent Headlam: “The best way to take control over a people and control them utterly is to take a little of their freedom at a time, to erode rights by a thousand tiny and almost imperceptible reductions. In this way, the people will not see those rights and freedoms being removed until past the point at which these changes cannot be reversed.”

Adolf Hitler

What are some thoughts everyone on actions we can do for this No Jab no pay Bill?

Crown funding for legal council?

Anyone know a good Lawyer that would take this on?

ACPS 1 Hitler 1

The next day, November 24 2015, an exasperated Headlam posted again, starting a different thread, disappointed that his rallying cry was largely ignored, except by a few:

Trent Headlam November 24 2015 at 20:48: Yesterday I posted a pretty serious comment regarding the groups thoughts on the new laws passed that discriminate against Australians right to non-discrimination of health choices for there families. Thank you to Clinton McCauley Stephen Kirby and Clare Molino for your comments and contributions. Is there only 3 people in this group that care about this? 1st we have our rights to give patients unbiased information on vaccines, now they are taking government subsidies away if you don’t vaccinate.. What’s next??? Banned from daycare? Banned from public school? Then what? Legally mandated immunisation for every Australian?

This is not a vaccine debate it is a freedom of speech, choice and a right to non-discrimination.

Vaccines carry real risks to an individual that are public information and are disclosed by the manufacturer of the vaccine to the degree of a very rare adverse event being less than 1 in 10000 for one particular vaccine on the national program. Times that by 3 doses and that’s becoming a very real risk… a parent should have the right to freely choose and without coercion the choice to way up the risks and benefits for their own children. We’ve already lost our rights as practitioners lets at least stand up for them as parents. Chiropractors used to go to Jail so patients could receive an adjustment and now we won’t even make a comment about a bill that passed to our own peers in a closed group. Step up

Adam L Smith 7 ACPS 1

Commentary immediately noted that the provision of immunisation misinformation is something which chiropractors would do well to avoid. I can almost hear Laurie Tassell’s ECG printing out from here:

Braddon Atkinson November 24: Hey Trent, whilst I agree that your question might be directed towards our rights with freedom of speech. It is based around a topic that is too heavily scrutinised to run the risk of public commentary. – Plenty of people in this group will give you stories of issues with comments ad posts being taken out of context and reported to authorities. As much as I understand your frustration I think people realise it is safer to not open themselves up to exposure about this topic. Personally I think they have that right to do so without being ridiculed for it.

Adam L Smith November 24: Exactly Braddon Atkinson. I am one of those people who can show you exactly that. I am apparently ‘Australia’s 11th worst anti-vax Chiro’ – and that came from 1 FB post about the original law… I have strong personal opinions but publicly on FB you can’t express them without it costing you time, stress and even actual money in lawyers fees.

Tim Shakespeare November 25: So I guess THEY won then…

Braddon Atkinson November 25: Yep. That round

Trent Headlam November 25: I think we forfeited

Astonishingly, Smith – a CAA QLD board member – then makes this admission, noting the discussions he has with his customers regarding immunisation. He states: “I talk with my patients about the evidence that exists” – in the trusted, private setting of the clinic – and “more and more often” his customers completely cease immunising their children:

Adam  L Smith November 25: The lost was incurred several years ago when the CBA adopted into law a specific section of the code prohibiting is from discussing vaccines. This meant that any troll with a vested interest felt he/she had grounds for filing a complaint of the mere word is uttered. Trying to wage war against vaccines and big pharma on Facebook is in my opinion useless and just opens us up for ridicule and attack. I talk with my patients about the evidence that exists and let them make their own choices. More and more often the choice they make is to alter or stop the schedule for their kids. It is not my place to tell anyone what to do on this subject. especially not on Facebook. I do t think the war is lost, this is just not the battlefield.

Adam L Smith 11 ACPS 5 clinical antivax advice given

When it becomes apparent that Smith’s admission has become known outside of the ACPS group, he later makes these strong denials that he ever discusses immunisation with his customers, except when he does. On November 29 2015, Smith states:

I don’t ‘discuss vaccination’ with people. What I do is say ‘I am forbidden to have an opinion on vaccination by my regulatory board. So what I suggest you do is do some research into the pros and cons of the current program in Australia, and maybe what some countries overseas are doing too, then form your own opinion. Your GP will give you certain information, but you will have to search for the rest. I’m sorry I can’t be of more help.’

The conversation usually ends there unless they ask about my own kids and what we do as a family, in which case I tell them.

As we have already seen, above, Smith states that immunisation is “injecting [your] kids with poisonous chemicals.” I’m glad he sorted that out for us.

And again – on November 30 2015 – in this comment in which Smith explicitly gives permission for his comments to be shared from the ACPS group:

For whoever in this forum is passing screenshots to certain bloggers and other trolls, please pass along all of my comment not just parts. To be clear, I do not discuss vaccination nor do I give advice on vaccination to my patients. I tell them I can’t advise them, and that they have to do their own research. I then respect whatever decision they make, and get on with the day. Further to my comment right at the top, even in this inter-professional forum comments are taken and used by the media against us. Please be aware that even though no patients or members of the public (should) have access to this group yours and my comments will absolutely make it out there.

Adam L Smith 25 ACPS denial provides vaccine info

As noted, the full thread will be included below. I strongly encourage you to have a read of the whole thing. It is enlightening. In it you can see how subluxationist, or vitalistic, chiropractic has much in common with cults: if you do not submit to the teachings of the cult you will be vilified; you will have your character questioned and you will be smeared by the thought leaders.

On Adam L Smith’s business pages we can see that subluxationist chiropractors are clearly not listening to the Chiropractic Board of Australia. These chiropractors know they will not face any serious sanction. They know the CBA will take over a year to investigate any allegations of breaches of Codes and Guidelines. They know that, even if they are found in breach, nothing will  happen to them. They will get a small slap on the wrist, in private, like a toddler caught defecating on the cat (again!): the mortified parent too embarrassed to tell anyone.

Those who raise these issues are vilified – they are called pharma stooges, vested interests, or industry shills, who are being well-paid for asking chiropractors to comply with their own damned regulations – by these chiropractors who need to be publicly shamed into removing outrageous claims, like this claim on Smith’s previous business page, asserting that chiropractic can treat autism. This method appears to work more efficiently than the CBA and AHPRA.

We have claims like this one, that chiropractic can treat ear infections:

Adam L Smith 17 Healthstyle Centre ear infections

This claim that chiropractic care makes healthier babies:

Adam L Smith 18 Healthstyle Centre chiro makes healthy babies

Again, a claim that chiropractic grows healthy kids:

Adam L Smith 19 Healthstyle Centre kids healthy chiropractic

Remember what Smith admits discussing with his customers, in private, about immunisation.

Here we have the promotion of the anti-vaccine advertorial, Doctored:

Adam L Smith 20 Healthstyle Centre Doctored

And then there are the obligatory testimonials. Remember, Smith is a CAA board member. How can this still happen? This behaviour is illegal. Testimonials are against the National Law:

Adam L Smith 15 Healthstyle Centre testimonial

Adam L Smith 16 Healthstyle Centre testimonial

Adam L Smith 21 SPCC testimonial

Adam L Smith 21 SPCC testimonial (2)

Adam L Smith 22 SPCC testimonial

Tell the Chiropractic Board of Australia. Tell the Chiropractors’ Association of Australia. Tell the Australian Health Practitioner Regulation Agency. Tell your state and federal health ministers. Tell your state’s federal senators. Tell your private health insurance providers, who subsidise these bizarre vitalistic practices with your contributions. Rational chiropractors grab your metaphorical pitchforks in outrage. This is not good enough. This enduring regulatory and legislative silence, with its lack of transparency, will not do. It cannot pass. This anti-vaccination-infected, faith-healing cult masquerading as legitimate healthcare cannot continue. This will not do.

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Addendum 1

The Hitler thread, November 23 2015:

Trent Headlam: “The best way to take control over a people and control them utterly is to take a little of their freedom at a time, to erode rights by a thousand tiny and almost imperceptible reductions. In this way, the people will not see those rights and freedoms being removed until past the point at which these changes cannot be reversed.”

Adolf Hitler

What are some thoughts everyone on actions we can do for this No Jab no pay Bill?

Crown funding for legal council?

Anyone know a good Lawyer that would take this on?

Rory Onley [see more here] likes this

Ben Moore: It won’t be easy to change this policy. You’ll need to find/develop good quality evidence to prove that vaccines are harmful. If you can prove that then you have a starting point to remove the no jab no play law.

What won’t help is attributing made up quotes to a tyrant.

“Yeah, Ben is totally right” – Mahatma Gandhi ;/

Clair Molino: I met up with Jim Turner an incredible lawyer in the US who is working with an organisation called Citizens for  Health to overturn the vaccine laws in California. He feels that getting this law delayed first will be a step forward to bide time to then get it overturned. This will then have a knock on effect in Australia – the little country that can’t think for itself and follows whatever happens in the US. I asked Jim how we can best support his organisation and he said raising money would be helpful. I  am open to helping this happen. He helped represent Dr Tedd Koren overturn a massive legal battle regarding chiropractic literature in the past in the court system. A David and Golithe situation. I have met Jim twice overseas – he is incredible and passionate representing alternative health http://www.citizens.org

Clinton McCauley [see more here]: Apparently by 2018 anyway the family tax benefit part a and part B are not going to be paid out any more. The budget of 2018 has not included those payments.
Therefore that means they will get their pay for three years and then no one will get paid no matter what their vax status.

Ben Moore, I have seen that quote attributed to Hitler several times, do you know who actually said it if it is not true. I am just interested.

Ben Moore: Clinton McCauley. Google suggests the quote comes from the eleventh chapter of a book entitled Wilfully Ignorant by Pat Miller.

Clinton McCauley: Thanks Ben!! Suits Hitler better or maybe Obama!!!

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Addendum 2

The Adam L Smith admission thread, November 24-30 2015:

Trent Headlam November 24 2015 at 20:48: Yesterday I posted a pretty serious comment regarding the groups thoughts on the new laws passed that discriminate against Australians right to non-discrimination of health choices for there families. Thank you to Clinton McCauley Stephen Kirby and Clare Molino for your comments and contributions. Is there only 3 people in this group that care about this? 1st we have our rights to give patients unbiased information on vaccines, now they are taking government subsidies away if you don’t vaccinate.. What’s next??? Banned from daycare? Banned from public school? Then what? Legally mandated immunisation for every Australian?

This is not a vaccine debate it is a freedom of speech, choice and a right to non-discrimination.

Vaccines carry real risks to an individual that are public information and are disclosed by the manufacturer of the vaccine to the degree of a very rare adverse event being less than 1 in 10000 for one particular vaccine on the national program. Times that by 3 doses and that’s becoming a very real risk… a parent should have the right to freely choose and without coercion the choice to way up the risks and benefits for their own children. We’ve already lost our rights as practitioners lets at least stand up for them as parents. Chiropractors used to go to Jail so patients could receive an adjustment and now we won’t even make a comment about a bill that passed to our own peers in a closed group. Step up

Braddon Atkinson November 24: Hey Trent, whilst I agree that your question might be directed towards our rights with freedom of speech. It is based around a topic that is too heavily scrutinised to run the risk of public commentary. – Plenty of people in this group will give you stories of issues with comments ad posts being taken out of context and reported to authorities. As much as I understand your frustration I think people realise it is safer to not open themselves up to exposure about this topic. Personally I think they have that right to do so without being ridiculed for it.

Adam L Smith November 24: Exactly Braddon Atkinson. I am one of those people who can show you exactly that. I am apparently ‘Australia’s 11th worst anti-vax Chiro’ – and that came from 1 FB post about the original law… I have strong personal opinions but publicly on FB you can’t express them without it costing you time, stress and even actual money in lawyers fees.

James Love November 24: #BeenThereDoneThatGotTheTShirt

Trent Headlam November 25: Thanks Braddon, I was not attempting to ridicule anybody and I’m sorry if it came across that way.

Tim Shakespeare [see more hereNovember 25: So I guess THEY won then…

Braddon Atkinson November 25: Yep. That round

Trent Headlam November 25: I think we forfeited

Adam L Smith November 25: The lost was incurred several years ago when the CBA adopted into law a specific section of the code prohibiting is from discussing vaccines. This meant that any troll with a vested interest felt he/she had grounds for filing a complaint of the mere word is uttered. Trying to wage war against vaccines and big pharma on Facebook is in my opinion useless and just opens us up for ridicule and attack. I talk with my patients about the evidence that exists and let them make their own choices. More and more often the choice they make is to alter or stop the schedule for their kids. It is not my place to tell anyone what to do on this subject. especially not on Facebook. I do t think the war is lost, this is just not the battlefield.

Jillian Natalie Hunt November 25: All I say is that I’m not vaccinated & my kids aren’t vaccinated….if they want evidence, people SHOULD have the right to be informed & have a choice

Trent Headlam November 25:Adam can u pls send me which part of the code actually mentions that I can’t seem to find it?

Adam L Smith November 26: http://www.chiropracticboard.gov.au/Codes-guidelines/FAQ/Position-statements/Provision-of-health-information.aspx  – that is one link, and this is usually the page the trolls refer to.

Chiropractic Board of Australia – Provision of health information
Australian Health Practitioner Regulation Agency
CHIROPRACTICBOARD.GOV.AU 

Alex McLennan November 25: The only way to give unbiased information, as a Chiropractor, on vaccines is to say “That’s not in my scope of practice. You’d be best off talking to your GP about that”.

The new laws are not discriminatory. They aren’t forcing anyone to do anything they don’t want to. They are removing one of the conditions for financial support for families. It may have the benefit of boosting vaccination rates in those who have forgotten, but it is unlikely to force anyone into vaccination if they have a preconceived view that they are evil and cause more harm than good. I would guess that most parents agree that you couldn’t pay them enough to do something they felt would harm their child.

Comparing this legislation to things Hitler (may not have) said was not a great way to start a discussion. Calling out colleagues for not being passionate enough to go to jail for your ideology is also not a great discussion point. This is not a Chiropractic fight. By all means protest as a private individual as is your right.

Ben Phillips [see more here] November 25: Alex McLennan I have to disagree (hopefully politely) on what you have asserted here.

This is a chiropractic fight in two senses. First is the issue of the unfair standard we are being held up to and second is the fact that it is our freedom as health professionals that is being impinged.

First, is the scope of practice issue. You (and the Board) are holding us to a false standard – it is innacurate as best (and downright farcical otherwise) to argue that most GP’s have the training, beliefs, independent analysis, time or inclination to truly explore this issue, and therefore they ALSO do not provide unbiased information. Their information is completely biased (in most cases), just in the opposite direction, and they are not required to explicitly inform their patients of this.

It is true that not all chiropractors have fully investigated this issue, and some of these (or many) may have their investigations and opinions informed by an ‘anti’ or a ‘more natural living’ perspective in terms of the information they have chosen in the

past to provide; if this is clearly expressed as the rationale behind the information delivered, they should have the right to provide it.

There is by all means an argument that their needs to be balance and reference to the other side of the argument. However, if this is the argument as to why chiropractors cannot comment due to being outside ‘scope’ then the same opposite argument applies to the vast majority of medical professionals that also do not give accurate information about risks and such; information needed to help their patients actually give true informed consent.

(Many never even give the package insert to their patients – a document which does often highlight more serious risks, even if minute in frequency…funny, don’t we have to provide an informed consent document suggesting that stroke could occur in a frequency of somewhere between 1 in 2mil-6mil? Such a minute risk-frequency, but we have to provide this information as chiropractors – there is no equivalent expectation that GP’s actually bother the give this vaccine data to their patients and for that matter get them to sign a document that says they understand and accept such risk).

These professionals are informed by the position that vaccination is of enormous benefit, and skepticism of this is tantamount to heresy. They often belittle patients who ask questions, or ostracise them because they believe so strongly in their position.

The fact that this issue in particular (as the only one so singled out) is apparently out of our scope is nothing but political expediency and image control against FOSiM and others that have always belittled our profession. It is not about ‘protecting the public’. The argument is not that we do not have the training or expertise to provide accurate information, it is that the information many chiropractors have historically provided contradicts the dominant position. Clearly this does not hold when we think about other ‘health information’ that we may provide to our clients/patients that we perhaps only received minor training in at a pre-professional level. For instance, nutrition information, exercise, stretches and movement, stress reduction techniques, alternatives to pain management. There are all kinds of areas that we often talk to people about that are not necessarily taught at uni – information about pillows and sleep posture; suggestions for how much sleep someone might need to function at their best…the list goes on.

Interestingly the board asserts that the Immunization Handbook is the relevant reference point for accurate information about use of vaccines in Australia. This document clearly states in the disclaimer at its beginning that the Australian government will accept no responsibility for the information contained therein, or harm caused by following the advice provided therein! Now that inspires confidence about it’s accuracy!

By muzzling us on this issue, there is now precedent to stop us providing pretty much any information outside of a pure (neuro)-musculo-skeletal framework – something a future board may choose to do, or feel pressured to do.

It also takes into no account further training either formal or informal that may have been done after university to become knowledgeable on a given issue.

Second, you argue the no jab, no pay laws are not discriminatory. You are completely wrong in this assertion. Many low income families (as a chiropractor you may be unaware of this) deeply depend on these financial benefits to stay afloat. When you are in dire need for a financial supplement, it becomes an instrument of coercion, that can force people into a given behaviour. Vaccination is a medical procedure. It does have risks. If there is ANY form of coercion, financial or otherwise, there can be NO informed consent. This is a basic tenet of what constitutes informed consent. The numbers of conscientious objectors in Australia was, and continues to be very low. The legislation DOES discriminate about these people who have made this conscious choice (and it is rare that someone would register as such, with all the hoops you must jump through to achieve this, unless they had done their own research and come to a decision not to vaccinate).

If vaccination is indeed the medical miracle it is claimed to be, education should be used as the primary method of informing people and encouraging their behaviour. The Law Institute of Victoria recently released a public position paper arguing this very point.

Trent Headlam November 26: Thank you Ben for a very concise comment. Alex it may be worthwhile checking out the word discrimination..
“Discrimination is treatment or consideration of, or making a distinction in favor of or against, a person or thing based on the group, class, or category to which that person or thing is perceived to belong to rather than on individual merit.”
Can u please explain how these laws don’t fall into the definition of discrimination?
Also I haven’t seen any interest in chiropractic philosophy coming from you ever are you sure you’re in the right group here? Can anybody vouch for Alex?

Alex McLennan November 29: Ben, I appreciate your polite comment. I think your comments are a little off topic in that they don’t seem to relate to this particular legislation, but I’ll answer them anyway.

Firstly in regards to the unfair standard comment. GPs have their own [unavailable]

Adam L Smith November 29: By way of providing some clarification Alex. Section 3.3 of the code you linked to does not mention anything specifically about package inserts, but it does mention discussing risks:

“Listening to patients, asking for and respecting their views about their health, and responding to their concerns and preferences.

Encouraging patients to tell you about their condition and how they are currently managing it, including any other health advice they have received, any prescriptions or other medication they have been prescribed and any other conventional, alternative or complementary therapies they are using.

Informing patients of the nature of, and need for, all aspects of their clinical management, including examination and investigations, and giving them adequate opportunity to question or refuse intervention and treatment.

Discussing with patients their condition and the available management options, including their potential benefit and harm.”

It would seem that a central tenant of GP’s working with their patients is to discuss potential harm not just the potential benefits.

Also they are compelled to give people ‘adequate opportunity to question or refuse intervention or treatment’.

The government policy in question seems to place GP’s at direct odds to their code of conduct.

Also I personally could not be paid enough to endanger my children in any situation, but that being said I don’t rely on government payouts to be able to feed my children either.

I disagree that ‘this policy is no more discriminatory against the poor as it is the rich’. Your argument that the rich are being discriminated against by earning too much to be eligible for the FTB and therefore are just as affected by the No Jab No Play policy is absurd. If you can’t get the FTB you are by definition not affected by a policy further restricting its conditions of distribution. You comment is similar to saying that because I am not a farmer and therefore cannot get any government assistance for my vegetable garden, I am affected as much as farmers are by the rule changes redefining what is and is not a drought…. It’s just not the same thing.

Lastly, no one is forcing anyone to undergo a cervical adjustment. There is no one even suggesting that, because every healthcare procedure carries some risk, and therefore MUST also be able to be refused by the patient (or the patient’s legal guardian) just like the GP’s code of conduct mandates.

Alex McLennan November 29: Thanks for the reply Adam, and for answering my general question.

Again, the insert issue is irrelevant. We are not required to provide copies of research that we quote our figures from in our own informed consent, except in cases where it is asked for. GP’s and all health care practitioners are held to the same standard. The inserts themselves are long, complex and beyond the understanding of the average lay person. For example, people often misunderstand the line “without respect for causality” when quoting inserts. There is also a common misconception around certain ingredients.

There seems to be a general assumption that medical practitioners are hiding the “truth” or misrepresenting associated risks. Some here seem to assume that GPs in particular do not discuss potential harm. Those people then claim to have as much or more knowledge around vaccination than their GP counterparts. Yet there is a stubborn refusal (or perhaps a gulf wide gap in knowledge) to answer another of my questions around the benefits of vaccination. If you are going to hold GPs to account and demand they speak of the harm and good with an intervention, then surely if you are serious that your knowledge is equal or superior, you should be held to the same standard. You yourself Adam, admitted in another post that you find patients opt out or change their mind (paraphrasing to save me time scrolling for your exact words) after discussing vaccination with them. I would ask you the same, if you feel yourself qualified to give advice or information, then what are some benefits of vaccination? Are their any populations that you would say benefit from a strong vaccination program?

I don’t follow the logic that this policy is at direct odds to the medical code of conduct. Again, this policy is not forcing people to do anything they object to.

I agree. There is no amount of money you could pay me to deliberately put my child in danger. Having said that, we constantly take calculated risks with their and our own safety. (Driving them in a car or swimming for example; both of which cost more child loves each year than adverse vaccination reactions in Australia)

I’ll concede my argument against this policy being discriminatory was poorly worded and confusing. The point I was trying to make was the government could be seen to be discriminatory with many policies if you choose to see it so. In order to obtain certain payments, you need to fit a certain criteria. Hence my point being that this policy is no more discriminatory than high income families being ineligible for the FTB. Saying this discriminates against the poor is like saying the government discriminates against obese smokers on the transplant list. It is only holding people accountable for their life choices as a way of measuring out limited funds. Once again, I would point out that this policy is not forcing anyone to undergo a medical procedure against their will. The policy clearly states who qualifies for these payments. It even clearly states the conditions around being unvaccinated and still having access to these funds.

Adam L Smith November 29: Yep, I thought you might have worded the whole FTB thing poorly. I understand your point even though I don’t necessarily agree.

I regard to a part of your comment, I don’t ‘discuss vaccination’ with people. What I do is say ‘I am forbidden to have an opinion on vaccination by my regulatory board. So what I suggest you do is do some research into the pros and cons of the current program in Australia, and maybe what some countries overseas are doing too, then form your own opinion. Your GP will give you certain information, but you will have to search for the rest. I’m sorry I can’t be of more help.’

The conversation usually ends there unless they ask about my own kids and what we do as a family, in which case I tell them.

My practice members don’t ask me to tell them what to do, they are usually asking ‘have you heard about x, y, z thing?’

Here’s the thing Alex, I’m not anti-vaccine by definition (this is a longer discussion than my thumbs can take on my iPhone right now) so I find it humorous that I have been labelled so. I am anti ‘forced vaccination’ in fact, I am anti ‘forced anything’ in relation to healthcare.

If I am asked about my thoughts on the government’s policy when sitting on any of the various committees I am involved with, then I will certainly give it, but for now I think we have likely ‘point and counterpointed’ this discussion to a good place to stop.

I can certainly see your viewpoint, and even though I disagree with some of your points, I respect your right to have and express them. I also realise that I cannot change your mind in this forum, so I will not waste either of our Sunday’s trying to do so.

I hope you have a great Christmas and New Year Alex. Good day.

Alex McLennan November 30: Agree to disagree. I appreciate you taking the time to respond and I also hear you on the iPhone thumb issue.

Adam L Smith November 25: The danger is always in the question, where is the line between private individual and professional for us Alex McLennan? It has been successfully argued before that ANYTHING a registered chiropractor says in regard to healthcare is deemed professional advice, and as such is not ‘private’. I have a professional Facebook page, and a personal Facebook account, but you can be absolutely sure that my personal account will be screenshot and presented as my professional viewpoint should I type something deemed inflammatory by anyone with a vested interest. Effectively what this situation has done is force us to either not engage in our beliefs or communicate our views, or run the increasingly certain risk of a formal complaint against us that we need to then waste time and money defending. The answer of course is that everyone is in theory entitled to their opinion, and discussing those opinions should be conducted in a reasoned and respectful manner…. good luck with that.

Alex McLennan November 25: There is more weight added to what you say if you are deemed a professional in that area. Facebook, like the rest of the internet, for better or worse, is public domain. The board has mandated that we do not discuss things outside our scope. There is good reason for this. Bad information can cost people dearly. There is a way to reduce your risk of being investigated. Just like there is a way to reduce your risk of pulled over for speeding. Stick to the rules.

Tim Shakespeare November 25: If this is outside our scope why are university students tested on their knowledge of this issue?

Adam L Smith November 25: Good question Tim. I don’t have an answer for that.

Alex McLennan November 25: http://chiro.mq.edu.au/news/vaccination-immunisation/

http://handbook.murdoch.edu.au/courses/details/?us=59021

Vaccination & immunisation – Department of Chiropractic
CHIRO.MQ.EDU.AU

Tim Shakespeare November 25: What is your point?

Alex McLennan November 25: We were also tested on cardiomyopathy. That still doesn’t mean offering treatment advice is within our scope. Especially if our advice is in direct opposition to the current best practice and best evidence on the topic.

My point is you are trying to use one or two test questions on a topic that is covered on a basic level as justification for giving out medical advice that directly contradicts standard practice.

This also goes to the heart of this matter that really this discussion that Trent started is not out of a concern for the fairness of the legislation but rather is coming purely from an anti-vax/anti-pharma ideology. Using a Hitler quote as an allegory for what you really think about people who vaccinate and those who provide them highlights this discussion has nothing to do with what is in the public’s interest and everything to do with furthering the us vs them mentality that infiltrates a small percentage of this profession.

Tim Shakespeare November 25: Identifying cardiomyopathy as a red flag is within our scope

What about identifying neurotoxins for the nervous system?

Alex McLennan November 25: Identifying cardiomyopathy is a red flag and offering treatment advice for cardiomyopathy are completely separate issues.
What neurotoxins specifically are you referring to?

Trent Headlam November 26: You sound like a very frustrated person Alex and it is obviously clouding your judgement. How was the quote from hitler implying anything towards what I think about individuals views on vaccination? It was a quote to highlight the danger of governments taking away basic civil liberties and freedom of choice without coercion in any matter. I hope you find some happiness and peace with your life soon Alex this is an amazing life we are all blessed with so best to enjoy it.

Tim Shakespeare November 27: Alex McLennan by identifying risks how are we providing treatment?

Alex McLennan November 27:  I usually don’t respond to ad hom as it rarely is productive. However Trent, it seems your original post for this thread is muddled. I respect your passion for what you are trying to achieve, but your methods appear disjointed.

Your comments show your frustration that more people have not joined the crusade, but belittling people on facebook is never a great way to garner support where little support is present.

You then use the slippery slope fallacy as a call to arms which usually is used to engender fear around a subject so as to rally support. “What’s next??? Banned from daycare? Banned from public school? Then what? Legally mandated immunisation for every Australian? “

You then go on to say –

“This is not a vaccine debate it is a freedom of speech, choice and a right to non-discrimination.”

Yet your whole argument against this legislation is that vaccines are dangerous. Your very next sentence is

“Vaccines carry real risks to an individual that are public information and are disclosed by the manufacturer of the vaccine to the degree of a very rare adverse event being less than 1 in 10000 for one particular vaccine on the national program. Times that by 3 doses and that’s becoming a very real risk”

This is irrelevant to any discussion about the merits of the legislation, unless your agenda is anti-vax/anti-pahrma driven. Would you protest so loudly about the governments considering rainsing the price of a pack of 25 cigarettes to $40? Would you protest so strongly about a fast food tax? I think as health professionals we would all agree that these would benefit the general health of the population and in doing so raise funds that can then be used on improving access to health career provide other services. It is well documented that the cost of treating VPD in terms of dollars, time, lost productivity, and cost to families involved is more than the cost of the vaccine (even allowing for the rare adverse reactions)

Finally you use an appeal to history and an appeal to authority with “Chiropractors used to go to Jail so patients could receive an adjustment and now we won’t even make a comment about a bill that passed to our own peers in a closed group. Step up”

The last words, “Step up” are very telling when considering levels of frustration. I wouldn’t suggest that your passion is leading to frustration though as I have never met you and I can only gage from from your comments how I “think” you would be feeling.

Tim Shakespeare November 27: Please answer my question Alex McLennan.

Alex McLennan November 27: Tim, you’re contradicting yourself with your circular argument.

“If this is outside our scope why are university students tested.…”

You argue here that consulting with patients on vaccines are within our scope.

“Identifying cardiomyopathy as a red flag…”

You’re using the same line of argument to say cardiomyopathy is not within our scope.

Now, if you please, could you answer my questions.

Paul Lawrence [see more hereNovember 25: It is absolutely a civil liberties issue

Alex McLennan November 25: How?

Paul Lawrence November 25: Should you or the state have a sovereign right over your body Alex?

Alex McLennan November 25: How does this legislation take away any of my rights over my body?

Alex McLennan November 26:  In a vacuum, you should have sovereign right over your own body.

Paul Lawrence November 26: You didnt answer the question Alex.

Paul Lawrence November 26: So given we don’t live in a vacuum I must assume that you think the state should have control over your body. So answer me how is that not a civil liberties issue?

Alex McLennan November 26: No. It’s not black and white and trying to make it so is a poor argument. If you could explain to me why you think this is an attack on civil liberties, then I could give you a clearer counter point. Remembering that this legislation is about a conditional government hand out, like all of their handouts and tax breaks, and service provided.

Paul Lawrence November 26: You either have control over your body or you don’t . You can either be forced against your will or you can’t be Alex. The concern in this discussion is the right of the state or otherwise to force procedures on humans against their will. We think they shouldn’t be able to.

Alex McLennan November 27: It’s not that Black and White. If we want to live in a community, be it local, state or national, then we must abide by the laws of the land, whether we agree with them or not. The “state” holds us accountable for many different things and when our actions put at risk the lives of others in the community, then the punishment or consequence is much more severe. Look at drink/drug driving as an example. Look at laws around indecent exposure as another example. These are laws with very real consequence if broken that mandate what you can and can’t do with your body. This legislation is not forcing anyone into anything. That point seems to be getting lost in this whole argument. Paul, you’ve stated before your position on vaccination and pharmaceutical’s. This legislation is removing a handout for people who don’t fit a certain criteria. If we look at it another way, how much money would I need to pay you for you to vaccinate or have any medical intervention you were ideologically opposed to performed on your own children? If you truly are a conscientious objector and have been swayed by the research to come to that conclusion (even if it contradicts the best practice and best evidence) then no amount of money would force you into doing something you believed harmed your kids. I expect that what you’ll find from this legislation is that parents who may have forgotten or been slack in keeping up with the vaccination schedule will now have a stronger incentive to keep to the schedule. Remembering there are still medical exemptions to the schedule that allow you to still access the benefits.

Paul Lawrence November 27: Alex, if you read Trents post you will see he is asking a question that arises from observing a number of actions by the state. The question Trent asks is “what next”. It is a very valid question when we see our rights being eroded and coercion being used. Perhaps it’s ok if you believe the state only ever operates in the best interests of the people simultaneously ignoring the influence of the powerful, but our eyes are wide open and we are not trying to fool ourselves about what’s happening here. If the state wants to stop people driving drunk bashing and robbing each other we don’t have a problem with that. If they want to enforce mass medication on the population we do. Its a civil liberty issue. You are arguing they should be able to do that and at the same time telling us we shouldn’t be worried because the current legislation doesn’t mandate that. Our concern is that there are other people, like you, who feel the state should have that right and this is the direction they are heading. How stupid would we be to listen to your argument that there is nothing to worry about in the current legislation but you feel the state should have the right to enforced mass medication. You couldn’t contradict yourself more completely.

Alex McLennan November 27: Paul, have you read the legislation in question? Can you point out for me where it says that vaccination will be mandatory for all? Can you point to me where it says the state will force mass medication on its people? That idea does not fit with the current government health policies around preventative strategies to improve the populations overall health. (Increase taxes on cigarettes and alcohol, media blitz on losing weight, quitting smoking, recommended screening for cancer, heart disease etc based on age milestones) To suggest that this is some sort of plot by those with power and influence belongs in the conspiracy file unless you have solid proof that that is what is happening. That’s the thing about conspiracies, you don’t need any proof and you can cherry pick what you like to fit your own agenda – chemtrails, false flag attacks, forced medication.

You’re still using a black or white argument that doesn’t apply here. You asked me if I believe the state should have sovereign rights over your body. I answered that it is not that simple. You yourself agree that you are ok with the state having some control over our own selves.

Scott Walters November 27: While mostly I think we have all discussed this with some level of decorum, please make sure it all stays that way thank you

Paul Lawrence November 27: Sorry Scott. Perhaps I should rephrase my comment Alex. On one hand you appear to support state sanctioned mass medication. On the other hand you tell us the current legislation should give us no concern. Surely if your position is representative of others views we would have every reason to be concerned.

Gordon Benz [see more here] November 28: I’m no expert, but my Hoover vacuum broke recently and we replaced it with an Electrolux vacuum. Now I’ve got nothing against Hoover, but I think the Electrolux sucks better. At the risk of my post being screen shot by a ‘domestic duties advocate’ and misrepresented, I believe I should be entitled to share my opinion on vacuum cleaners

Adam L Smith November 30: For whoever in this forum is passing screenshots to certain bloggers and other trolls, please pass along all of my comment not just parts. To be clear, I do not discuss vaccination nor do I give advice on vaccination to my patients. I tell them I can’t advise them, and that they have to do their own research. I then respect whatever decision they make, and get on with the day. Further to my comment right at the top, even in this inter-professional forum comments are taken and used by the media against us. Please be aware that even though no patients or members of the public (should) have access to this group yours and my comments will absolutely make it out there.

Paul Lawrence November 30:  I’m already answering complaints from the so called sceptics for comments made on this group and noticed a big surge on my clinic facebook page after comments on I made on this thread. Any idea who might be passing them on Alex McLennan?

Alex McLennan November 30: Paul, no I don’t. Besides, what could anyone pass on? You refuse to answer any of my questions.

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Addendum 3

Code of conduct for chiropractors.

1.2 Professional values and qualities

[Practitioners] have a duty to keep their skills and knowledge up to date, refine and develop their clinical judgement as they gain experience, and contribute to their profession.

All practitioners have a responsibility to recognise and work within the limits of their competence, scope and areas of practice. Areas of practice vary according to different roles; for example, health practitioners, education providers, researchers and managers will all have quite different competencies and scopes of practice.

2.1 Providing good care. Introduction

a. appropriately assessing the patient, taking into account their history (history includes relevant psychological, social and cultural aspects), views and conducting an appropriate physical examination

b. ensuring that the diagnosis/clinical impression is appropriate, relevant, justifiable and based on sound clinical reasoning

d. formulating and implementing a reasonable management plan (including providing treatment/care and advice and, where relevant, arranging investigations and liaising with other treating practitioners)

2.2 Good practice

a. recognising and working within the limits of the chiropractor’s competence and scope and area of practice, which may change over time

b. maintaining adequate knowledge and skills to provide safe and effective care, including providing treatment/care and advice and where relevant, arranging investigations and liaising with, or referring to, other health professionals

e. considering the balance of benefit and harm in all clinical management decisions

g. providing treatment/care options based on the best available information and practising in an evidence-based context and not being influenced by financial gain or incentives

h. ensuring that services offered are provided with the best possible skill, care and competence

m. ensuring that the chiropractor’s personal views do not adversely affect the care of their patients, and

n. evaluating practice and the decisions made and action taken in providing good care.

3.4 Confidentiality and privacy

b. seeking consent from patients before disclosing or sharing information

g. ensuring that all staff are aware of the need to respect the confidentiality and privacy of patients and refrain from discussing patients in a non-professional context

j. ensuring that use of social media and e-health is consistent with the practitioner’s ethical and legal obligations to protect privacy

3.5 Informed consent

b. providing an explanation of the treatment/care recommended, its likely duration, expected benefits and cost, any alternative(s) to the proposed care, their relative risks/benefits, as well as the likely consequences of no care

c. obtaining informed consent or other valid authority before undertaking any examination or investigation, providing treatment/care (this may not be possible in an emergency) or involving patients in teaching or research, including providing information on material risks

3.6 Informed financial consent

a. ensuring that any financial agreement is based on the clinical needs of the patient

3.7 Children and young people

b. placing the interests and wellbeing of the child or young person first

d. ensuring informed consent to providing care for children involves the patient’s parent and/or guardian being provided with clinically relevant information for the chiropractic management of the child; unless a chiropractor judges that a child is of sufficient age and mental and emotional capacity to give their own consent to a service and relevant state and territory laws are complied with

e. ensuring that risks of care and alternatives to care are sufficiently explained as these are essential elements of informed consent

4.1 Use of diagnostic and therapeutic modalities in chiropractic practice

a. a full and thorough assessment of patients using tools, tests and procedures that are appropriate for the gathering of information necessary to form a reasonable diagnosis or clinical impression

c. only using diagnostic tools, tests and procedures in accordance with established protocols for their appropriate use

d. evaluating and reporting the data obtained in a contextual way to ensure that a reasonable and relevant diagnosis/clinical impression is formed, and that appropriate and necessary care is provided

e. when using tools, tests and procedures in formulating a diagnosis/clinical impression, management plan and/or for prognostic purposes, the tools used should be for conditions where there are demonstrated acceptable levels of reliability and validity, and

f. not misrepresenting the clinical value or significance of the findings of any tool, test or procedure.

5.1 Respect for colleagues and other practitioners

b. acknowledging and respecting the contribution of all practitioners involved in patient care

6.4 Public health matters

a. understanding the principles of public health, including health education, health promotion, disease prevention, and control and screening

b. participating in efforts to promote the health of the community and being aware of obligations in disease prevention, including screening and reporting notifiable diseases where relevant

6.5 Provision of care in a healthcare facility

Good practice involves:

a. seeking permission to access and provide care

b. adhering to and following the policies and procedures of the facility

c. communicating effectively with other practitioners involved in the management of the patient

d. keeping the the facility informed of any care

e. ensuring professional indemnity insurance (PII) coverage to cover care in that facility, and

f. keeping adequate records.

9.6 Advertising

a. complying with the National Board’s Advertising guidelines and relevant state and territory legislation and Commonwealth law.

b. making sure that any information published about services is factual and verifiable

10.2 Chiropractors’ health

c. understanding the principles of immunisation against communicable diseases

 

Guidelines for advertising regulated health services

6.2 Prohibited advertising under the National Law

Section 133 of the National Law prohibits advertising that:

  • is false, misleading or deceptive or is likely to be so
  • offers a gift, discount or other inducement to attract a user of the health service without stating the terms and conditions of the offer
  • uses testimonials or purported testimonials
  • creates an unreasonable expectation of beneficial treatment, and/or
  • encourages the indiscriminate or unnecessary use of health services.

6.2.1 Misleading or deceptive advertising

Section 133 of the National Law states:

1. A person must not advertise a regulated health service, or a business that provides a regulated health service, in a way that –

a. Is false, misleading or deceptive or is likely to be misleading or deceptive

Eg:

– mislead, either directly, or by implication, use of emphasis, comparison, contrast or omission

– only provide partial information which could be misleading

– imply that the regulated health services can be a substitute for public health vaccination or immunisation

– advertise the health benefits of a regulated health service when there is no proof that such benefits can be attained, and/or

– compare different regulated health professions or practitioners, in the same profession or across professions, in a way that may mislead or deceive.

6.2.2 Gifts and discounts

Section 133 of the National Law states:

1. A person must not advertise a regulated health service, or a business that provides a regulated health service, in a way that –

b. Offers a gift, discount or other inducement to attract a person to use the service or the business, unless the advertisement also states the terms and conditions of the offer

Advertising may contravene the National Law when it:

– contains price information that is inexact

– contains price information that does not specify any terms and conditions or variables to an advertised price, or that could be considered misleading or deceptive

– states an instalment amount without stating the total cost (which is a condition of the offer), and/or

– does not state the terms and conditions of offers of gifts, discounts or other inducements.

6.2.3 Testimonials

Section 133 of the National Law states:

1. A person must not advertise a regulated health service, or a business that provides a regulated health service, in a way that –

c. Uses testimonials or purported testimonials about the service or business

6.2.4 Unreasonable expectation of beneficial treatment

Section 133 of the National Law states:

1. A person must not advertise a regulated health service, or a business that provides a regulated health service, in a way that –

d. Creates an unreasonable expectation of beneficial treatment

6.2.5 Encouraging indiscriminate or unnecessary use of health services

Section 133 of the National Law states:

1. A person must not advertise a regulated health service, or a business that provides a regulated health service, in a way that –

e. Directly or indirectly encourages the indiscriminate or unnecessary use of regulated health services

 

Social media policy

When using social media, health practitioners should remember that the National Law, their National Board’s code of ethics and professional conduct (the Code of conduct) and the Guidelines for advertising regulated health services (the Advertising guidelines) apply.

Registered health practitioners should only post information that is not in breach of these obligations by:

  • complying with professional obligations
  • complying with confidentiality and privacy obligations (such as by not discussing patients or posting pictures of procedures, case studies, patients, or sensitive material which may enable patients to be identified without having obtained consent in appropriate situations)
  • presenting information in an unbiased, evidence-based context, and
  • not making unsubstantiated claims.

Additional information may be available from professional bodies and/or employers, which aims to support health practitioners’ use of social media. However, the legal, ethical, and professional obligations that registered health practitioners must adhere to are set out in the National Boards’ respective Code of conduct and the Advertising guidelines.

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Dr Kevin Coleman – the antivaxers’ champion

Dr Kevin Coleman is a general practitioner at Tuggerah Medical Centre, on the New South Wales Central Coast. Coleman publicly lists his medical employment history on his Facebook profile, including his current position at Tuggerah Medical Centre:

Coleman 3 profile GP Tuggerah married to Flavia

Coleman 21 GP Tuggereah public

Pay particular attention to the positions which Coleman has held in the past; HIV/AIDS Coordinator/Communicable Diseases at the Dubbo Public Health Unit, in NSW’s central west:

Coleman 44 pre Tuggereah history

Coleman is no stranger to professional controversy. In 2010, Coleman was cautioned by the Medical Professional Standards Committee [inquiry PDF] for undertaking an inappropriate breast exam, without permission, on a patient. From the Health Care Complaints Commission publication:

The Health Care Complaints Commission recently prosecuted a complaint against Dr Kevin Thomas Coleman, a general practitioner, before a Medical Professional Standards Committee. The complaint alleged that Dr Coleman undertook a breast examination without the patient’s consent, without explaining to the patient the reason for the examination, and that the examination was inappropriate. It was further alleged that he failed to maintain adequate medical records.

In its decision of 12 April 2010, the Committee found Dr Coleman guilty of unsatisfactory professional conduct and cautioned him.

Coleman 5 HCCC publication 2010

Coleman still has conditions attached to his registration. For example:

2. To practise only in a group practice (group is defined as at least 3 practitioners), with one other practitioner (supervisor) always on site. Nursing home and home visits are permitted if approved by the Medical Council of NSW.

3. To not consult, treat, interview or examine any female patient over the age of 13 years, whether in his surgery rooms, a nursing home or on house calls, unless a chaperone (an adult third person) is continuously present.

a) Prior to any such consultation, examination, treatment or interview, he must inform each female patient, or the parent or other adult carer of each child patient, of the necessity for a third person/chaperone to be present at all times.

And, importantly, note the final condition. Keep this in the back of your mind:

Registration is also subject to conditions that relate to personal health. Particulars are not published due to privacy considerations.

Coleman is also the co-author – with his wife, Flavia Coleman – of a book titled, Monkey Business: a Story of Soulmates and Primates. The Facebook page for the book is co-administered by both Colemans. Therefore, they are both responsible for its content:

Coleman 36 MB page owner

We first became aware of Coleman’s association with the Sydney anti-vaccination protest movement, and its sexist thugs, when we found out he had given a speech at the September 2015 protest. The video for the speeches given at this protest have never surfaced. But, we know he was there, from this public image, courtesy of Facebook:

Coleman 47 Sydney2 Brett Smith Belle Angel Lovelight Ian Hastings

1. Brett Smith; 2. Kevin Coleman; 3. Flavia Coleman;
4. Belle Angel Lovelight; 5. Ian Stanley.

Coleman’s newly-found fame was also covered in Australian Doctor, in two separate articles by Serkan Ozturk [full text of the two log-in protected articles included at the end of this post]:

Spirituality can help fight infectious disease, says GP

A doctor who was “in charge” of vaccinations while working for a NSW Government public health unit, says spirituality has played a role in driving down rates of communicable disease.

Dr Kevin Coleman, now a GP on the NSW Central Coast who says he is “not anti-vaccination across the board”, outlined his views in a submission to the Senate inquiry into the Federal Government’s proposed ‘no jab, no pay’ plan.

“We are witnessing a slow-moving tsunami of immunological dysfunction as evidenced by a steady increase in childhood cancer and allergy, and emotional–cognitive development disorders. Why?,” Dr Coleman asks.

“Like most pathologies, the answers are complex and multifactorial: but it stands to reason that vaccination is in there as ‘person of interest’.”

GP unrepentant over vaccination views

A vaccination-sceptic GP says he is unafraid of a visit from AHPRA over his controversial views that “spirituality” may be a weapon in reducing communicable disease.

Tuggerah GP Dr Kevin Coleman has told Australian Doctor that he stands by his comments made in a submission to the Senate inquiry looking into the Federal Government’s proposed ‘no jab, no pay’ Bill.

“I am concerned about this legislation. It is vexatious in my view. I don’t think we should be coercing or forcing parents into medical procedures of any kind,” Dr Coleman told Australian Doctor.

“That’s what we fought two world wars for – to preserve our freedoms.

“I really don’t care if AHPRA come after me for my views. I think if the medical establishment was doing its job – which it’s not – we would have independent outcomes about vaccines.

The No Jab No Pay legislation –  which passed through parliament, unamended – senate submission written by Coleman can be viewed, here [PDF].

What brings us to today’s post is that I have finally managed to transcribe the bulk of the speech given by Dr Kevin Coleman at the November 2015 anti-vaccination protest, which was held outside the Surry Hills offices of News Limited. I’ll include the transcript at the end of the post. This is a still from the Coleman speech:

Coleman 42 YT still

The protest was an embarrassing failure for the increasingly rabid anti-vaccination fringe. The crowd was estimated at somewhere between 15 and 20 attendees. There were more onlookers and police present, than there were protesters. This editorial from the Sunday Telegraph, on November 22 2015, gives a very succinct run-down on just how successful the anti-vaccine protests have been:

Sunday Tele November 22 2015 editorial

Here is the video of the Coleman speech. It would be pointless of the protesters to delete the video; we have several copies available should there be a request from health profession regulators:

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Some excerpts of Coleman’s speech are as follows:

00:23 There’s no question that some of you here, just looking around at some of the placards, have children who have suffered because of an adverse event following vaccination.

00:50 There’s no question that you can live a healthy life without vaccines…So they’re acknowledging that a small number of children are, have catastrophic consequences. What we’re not acknowledging is that for some children those consequences are subtle, but, all-pervasive and can be terribly detrimental for the life trajectory of those children.

Coleman alludes to vaccines being a source of criminal behaviour:

01:23 At the moment I’m dealing, counselling a lot of young men and some of whom are on probation for some sort of criminal offence…Our prisons are full of youth and older who’ve had some sort of deficit as a consequence of whatever.

Coleman asserts that there has not been enough research done on the vaccines/autism debate:

02:02 If we look at something like autism for instance…Not infrequently the mother will say “my child had a vaccine and my child was just not the same after that.” So there’s a whole range of environmental toxins, okay, inclusive I believe of vaccines that can cause damage to our children. One of the great difficulty we have is we haven’t researched this issue sufficiently…So, for instance, we know that, if we look at something like autism, and the jury’s still out.

Coleman again asserts the flawed hypotheses that vaccines have not been studied appropriately, and that post-immunisation surveillance is not adequately carried out:

03:18 So often those children are at risk and yet we tend to have one size fits all so we tend to say look all children are the same you’re through that you’re more better off being vaxed than not. And the fact is we just don’t have the information, we don’t have the research; we certainly don’t have the research around the subtle sequelae that follow from vaccination.

Coleman alleges that vaccine safety data is deliberately distorted:

03:39 And this is the difficulty; we need transparency of data; we need a more sophisticated research approach; and we need to take the parents seriously…As I said one of the big problems we have in medicine is a distortion of the data…

Coleman alleges that accusations of vaccine injury are ignored, based on the claims of the anti-vaccine activists present:

07:36 Although this is a small crowd, it’s important we voice our concerns. So I’m not gonna go and bash the parents who want to vaccinate their child and neither am I yourselves; I think your experiences are real and they’re valid. They need to be listened to and taken seriously; we need good research. We don’t have it at this stage.

Coleman alleges that general practitioners ignore the lifestyle factors of their patients in lieu of writing scripts:

07:55 Certainly I think working in general practice one is very mindful that we are, in, that how often have you gone to a GP and we try to do our best and sometimes we could do better than we do. But often it’s just script, script, script, alright? So we’ve become churning through the scripts, and we’re burying the lifestyle issues.

Alarmingly, Coleman notes that he was admitted to a stroke unit in 2009, attributing his condition to an influenza immunisation:

08:17 I used to be a passionate supporter of vaccines. I used to consider you guys the lunatic fringe. Okay? And now I’m saying well hang on, what’s going on here. I needed to be hit over the head with a bit of four-be-two. In 2009 when my patients came in for the swine flu vaccine they said “doc, are you sure this is safe because the vaccine companies are being indemnified by the government.” I said “look I’m sure it is”, so I got myself a whack in the shoulder and there you go, alright? Subsequent to that I noticed a few little splinter haemorrhages in my bed-nails, I thought nothing of it. And a little while later I found myself in the stroke unit in Gosford Hospital. I was throwing off a few emboli. It’s purely anecdotal. It doesn’t necessarily mean very much, it goes under the radar. But in my experience, when you look for it, vaccine side-effects are much more common than we actually give it credit: they’re there, and they’re not being investigated.

Coleman mistakenly equates the real harm done by vaccine preventable disease, with the many made-up claims of vaccine injury, thus doing a great disservice to those he claims to honour:

09:13 And I think that I’m honouring the parents who’ve lost children to vaccine preventable diseases, because I have seen in my career I’ve seen children who’ve been affected by, intra, you know, rubella in pregnancy and it’s devastating for those parents. Just as devastating as it is for parents whose children, whose children’s developmental trajectory has been punctuated by vaccine, they say “the child was never the same after”. So, we’re looking at both sides of the coin, both parents, both mothers deserve our compassion, and the only way through this is with impartial evidence. We’re not getting that.

Coleman continues for another five minutes,  repeating many of the claims which are made above, in what ends up being a rambling, almost incoherent stream of consciousness, devoid of logical acuity, which has little resemblance to the reality of epidemiology and immunisation adverse event surveillance. There is something very amiss with Coleman’s new-found anti-vaccination apologism, and it is time for the Medical Board of Australia to re-open an investigation into Coleman’s fitness to practice.

Looking back to Coleman’s Facebook profile, which lists his medical positions, we see equally disturbing posts from a medical professional who once worked in communicable diseases.

Only yesterday Coleman posted an article from 2011 as if it was confirmation that the Gardasil vaccine is harming vaccinees. It isn’t. The court case discussed never went anywhere, and any self-respecting medical professional would not post such unsubstantiated rubbish four years after the alleged vaccine harm never even made it into a courtroom:

Coleman 43 Gardasil CM 2011

On November 11 2015 Coleman degraded the memories of all who fought against real oppression by grubbily linking Armistice Day with the promotion of anti-vaccinationism:

Coleman 39 NJNP armistice day

On October 21 2015 Coleman posted the anti-vaccination staple: the contaminated polio vaccine gambit. What he doesn’t mention is that, although this information has been readily accessible for many years, no one has been confirmed to have suffered any complications from the over-fifty-year-old contamination:

Coleman 37 polio cancer virus

Another anti-vaccine post, from June 2015. Collective Evolution,  no less:

Coleman 15 antivax doctor support

And then there is Coleman’s inexplicable advocacy of Ian Gawler’s treatments, including anti-chemotherapy/oncologist comments:

Coleman 14 Gawler blog post

Coleman 16 Gawler

Coleman 19 promoting Gawler cancer treatment

Coleman 20 chemo Gawler

And Coleman has also been active in a closed anti-vaccination Facebook group, called Unvaccinated Australia. Some bizarre claims – made in agreement with this delusional post – were made by Coleman only last night:

Coleman 45 UA OP Tyranny

Kevin Coleman I agree this is Tyranny. Aussies are asleep. But the number of harmed will grow incrementally. We will wake up eventually

Kevin Coleman Aggressive ping pong will just perpetuate the cycle of violence, my friend. We got to fight for transparency. Look at the ISIS phenomena. Firm commitment to transparency, compassion and justice. You need to teach your son the power of constructive passion. Aluta continua! The struggle continues. We will overcome

Coleman 46 UA tyrrany cont harmed by vax will grow

Coleman’s Facebook page is certainly no better.

This is crazy stuff; make no mistake. And Coleman is responsible for this content:

Coleman 26 MB vaccine cancer

Coleman 28 MB anti pharma

Coleman 30 MB tetanus vaccine

Coleman 31 MB anti pharma

Coleman 33 MB Gates pharma

Coleman 34 MB truth about vax

Coleman 35 MB Horowitz YT

Remember, Coleman worked in public health, as the HIV/AIDS Coordinator, in Dubbo:

Coleman 32 MB AIDS cure YT

And more cancer cure conspiracy crankery:

Coleman 29 MB cancer cure

Hopefully we’ve included enough here to make the Medical Board of Australia, and the NSW Health Care Complaints Commission, sit up in fright. Coleman is now a public health concern which needs to be addressed, immediately. I mean, when you are a star of Ian Hastings’ No Vaccines Australia Facebook page, you know your claw marks are present on the bottom of that rusty barrel:

Coleman 41 NVA Protest3 Sydney November 20 2015

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Update November 28 2015

Two hours after this blog post went live Coleman posted the 2011 Gardasil article again, along with a stream of unrelated gibberish to, I guess, substantiate his silly behaviour:

Coleman 48 Gardasil CM again Nov 28

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Addendum 1: Transcript of Coleman Sydney speech

00:23 There’s no question that some of you here, just looking around at some of the placards, have children who have suffered because of an adverse event following vaccination.

00:50 There’s no question that you can live a healthy life without vaccines. There’ll be an attempt to bring in a compensation scheme for children who are severely damaged by vaccines. So they’re acknowledging that a small number of children are, have catastrophic consequences. What we’re not acknowledging is that for some children those consequences are subtle, but, all-pervasive and can be terribly detrimental for the life trajectory of those children.

01:23 At the moment I’m dealing, counselling a lot of young men and some of whom are on probation for some sort of criminal offence; it’s often trivial but there can be a whole host of things from driving under the influence or domestic violence, or an assault, all sorts of things. What we do know is that a lot of, when you go, go down and grind down and started looking at how people are functioning, their cognitive functioning, their emotional functioning, often there are deficits. Our prisons are full of youth and older who’ve had some sort of deficit as a consequence of whatever.

02:02 If we look at something like autism for instance, and there’s a whole spectrum of autistic problems, some of those children when you speak to, or you listen to the stories, okay, some children have had scarlet fever and after that the mother says the child just wasn’t the same after that. Not infrequently the mother will say “my child had a vaccine and my child was just not the same after that.” So there’s a whole range of environmental toxins, okay, inclusive I believe of vaccines that can cause damage to our children. One of the great difficulty we have is we haven’t researched this issue sufficiently.

02:44 So, for instance, we know that, if we look at something like autism, and the jury’s still out, if we look at autism, we know that the children who are at risk are the children whose mothers have had a lack of oxygen or ischaemia or hypoxia during birth or some other intra-uterine insult. Let’s say the mum has had a severe bowel infection during pregnancy, or she has a difficult delivery, a Caesar and the baby’s been without oxygen for a while, more in fact if the child is male.

03:18 So often those children are at risk and yet we tend to have one size fits all so we tend to say look all children are the same you’re through that you’re more better off being vaxed than not. And the fact is we just don’t have the information, we don’t have the research; we certainly don’t have the research around the subtle sequelae that follow from vaccination.

03:39 And this is the difficulty; we need transparency of data; we need a more sophisticated research approach; and we need to take the parents seriously. Whether it might be a mum or a dad; whether or not you’re a teacher, a doctor, a pharmacist, or a police officer, or whoever, right, you guys as parents know your child better than anyone else, you know your children; and you’ll know that something’s not right; you’ll know that there’s been a punctuating event, whatever that is, you’re the expert on your children. And I think it’s important that if the parents are concerned to take it seriously. As I said one of the big problems we have in medicine is a distortion of the data…

06:03 We fought two world wars for freedom in this country.

06:28 Whether or not you’re provax or antivax often parents are passionate about the welfare of their children; they’re very really concerned, okay, and so that I think that the point here to this is the vaccine, but, there’s other factors as well. And often we’ve ignored the environmental and lifestyle factors. With autism up until the present time for instance we’re told, well, it’s poly-genetic. There’s something wrong with your genes: that’s why your child has got autism. We hear the same sort of thing with cancer. Whereas we know that really the major cause of, whether it be neurological dysfunction in our children, autoimmune disease in our children, we’re seeing a lot of allergy now that we weren’t seeing a generation ago. So all the rising rates of cancer, there’s something going wrong with our human immune system; there’s something wrong here that we need to explore further and take seriously

07:36 Although this is a small crowd, it’s important we voice our concerns. So I’m not gonna go and bash the parents who want to vaccinate their child and neither am I yourselves; I think your experiences are real and they’re valid. They need to be listened to and taken seriously; we need good research. We don’t have it at this stage.

07:55 Certainly I think working in general practice one is very mindful that we are, in, that how often have you gone to a GP and we try to do our best and sometimes we could do better than we do. But often it’s just script, script, script, alright? So we’ve become churning through the scripts, and we’re burying the lifestyle issues.

08:17 I used to be a passionate supporter of vaccines. I used to consider you guys the lunatic fringe. Okay? And now I’m saying well hang on, what’s going on here. I needed to be hit over the head with a bit of four-be-two. In 2009 when my patients came in for the swine flu vaccine they said “doc, are you sure this is safe because the vaccine companies are being indemnified by the government.” I said “look I’m sure it is”, so I got myself a whack in the shoulder and there you go, alright? Subsequent to that I noticed a few little splinter haemorrhages in my bed-nails, I thought nothing of it. And a little while later I found myself in the stroke unit in Gosford Hospital. I was throwing off a few emboli. It’s purely anecdotal. It doesn’t necessarily mean very much, it goes under the radar. But in my experience, when you look for it, vaccine side-effects are much more common than we actually give it credit: they’re there, and they’re not being investigated.

09:13 And I think that I’m honouring the parents who’ve lost children to vaccine preventable diseases, because I have seen in my career I’ve seen children who’ve been affected by, intra, you know, rubella in pregnancy and it’s devastating for those parents. Just as devastating as it is for parents whose children, whose children’s developmental trajectory has been punctuated by vaccine, they say “the child was never the same after”. So, we’re looking at both sides of the coin, both parents, both mothers deserve our compassion, and the only way through this is with impartial evidence. We’re not getting that.

09:52 So, you’ve heard a lot about the malfeasance, about the corruption within the medical system, it is there unfortunately. As I said, some of that is out-and-out corruption; some of that is perhaps just bias; and some of it is wishful thinking. So we can all be hypnotised by our paradigm. And I think that within medicine we’ve been very focussed on the drugs and not enough on lifestyle. Now lifestyle’s incredibly important, okay?

10:22 If you look at something like meningococcus, which is a terrible disease, and I’ve certainly cared for children in intensive care units who’ve been saved, but, they’ve lost their nose, their ears, there’s fingers, there’s toes, it’s a terrible situation. And certainly speaking as a doctor who’s seen this I’ve said “my God bring on the vaccine I don’t want to see this I don’t want to have to deal with this”. And every other day you’ll hear about the wonders of the meningococcal vaccine and how important it is.

10:49 But what we don’t hear about, what we don’t hear about, is that in families and households where there’s a smoker the mortality rate, the infant mortality rate is four to twenty-fold increase in a smoking household. And that’s not to put down some of you good people who may be smokers – the underlying problem’s trauma that hasn’t been dealt with – so the thing is what we need is parents who have children who have been, we need a transparent and level playing field. We need to listen to all the mums and all the dads about what’s happened to their children.

11:23 The only way through this, and these are very emotionally charged issues, you’ll find that this is polarising and that polarisation is not always helpful; because what we’re looking for is the truth and the truth is that, yes, vaccines do some good. Yes, vaccines do some harm. Yes, you can live a good, healthy life without vaccines. And yes, there is, there are issues around protecting our children and how we best do that. These are difficult issues. The only way through this is with impartial research at arm’s length from industry. We really need this. We need the research, but, it needs to be impartial.

12:00 At the moment I feel that general practice is really letting us down, because it’s really focussed on prescribing the drug. So what we need is, is to empower general practice with front end loading, alright? Front…loading the database in…loading the database about what are the symptoms, what problems, what potential problems here. When was the vaccines given? What was the side effect? What really get up to get that information out? So until we’ve got a level playing field, until we’ve got the research, we’re gonna have this polarisation.

12:33 So, parents deserve to be heard. And you’ve heard a lot of very good speakers here; I’m giving you just a slice from the medical opinion. It’s not straight forward. When I’ve raised this issues with my colleagues a lot were vilifying me, but, quite a number were anonymously saying “look I agree with you but I’m not prepared to [inaudible] anonymous”. So the thing is we need transparency, we need to get away from scapegoating people, as being fruit loops, or the lunatic fringe. We need to get the data; we need to analyse it at arm’s length.

13:04 We need to remain steadfast and united. We need to push for transparency. We need to push for a moratorium on this. I’m very mindful that they’re going to bring in this compulsory, well, I don’t know, there’s vaccination for mothers.

13:19 The big problem in science is you need your case controls ideally randomised to see what’s happening to the kids who were vaccinated, what’s happening to the kids who weren’t vaccinated. What are the subtle changes we’re missing and what are the very early situations we’re missing when a child’s first born there’s that gauge with the mother, there’s that interaction with the mum, okay, we don’t have any way of clinically recording that, unless you go looking for the data, unless you go looking for the clinical signs, and often parents will say “there’s something not right here”, we need better science and better replication of science to sort this thing out. In the meantime, okay, the best thing we can do for our children is a healthy lifestyle, and address the [inaudible] a healthy lifestyle, a plant-based diet, avoid the smoking, if you are a smoker get some help, okay? And be passionate about your children and try to…just keep searching for the truth. Thanks you all.

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Addendum 2: Australian Doctor article by Serkan Ozturk

Spirituality can help fight infectious disease, says GP

Serkan Ozturk | 9 November, 2015

A doctor who was “in charge” of vaccinations while working for a NSW Government public health unit, says spirituality has played a role in driving down rates of communicable disease.

Dr Kevin Coleman, now a GP on the NSW Central Coast who says he is “not anti-vaccination across the board”, outlined his views in a submission to the Senate inquiry into the Federal Government’s proposed ‘no jab, no pay’ plan.

“We are witnessing a slow-moving tsunami of immunological dysfunction as evidenced by a steady increase in childhood cancer and allergy, and emotional–cognitive development disorders. Why?,” Dr Coleman asks.

“Like most pathologies, the answers are complex and multifactorial: but it stands to reason that vaccination is in there as ‘person of interest’.”

He says that childhood mumps offers a degree of protection against ovarian cancer, but this is “forfeited by those who are vaccinated”.

“There is NO doubt that the major advances in the control of communicable diseases have come with public health measures of: clean water, sanitation, good nutrition, and healthy social relationships and spirituality.”

Dr Coleman says he has more than 35 years of experience in family medicine.

“I was formerly [the] medical officer in charge of communicable disease/vaccinations for Western NSW, whilst working for the Western NSW public health unit in Dubbo and briefly served on the Hepatitis Advisory Committee for NSW in 1994,” his submission states.

“I believe the so called ‘anti vaccers’ need be given the respect they deserve. Their observations are not to be dismissed — but heeded.

“We’ve fought two world wars for our democratic freedoms.

“I am not anti-vaccination across the board – but I do have strong reservations about the way vaccines are marketed, the hype regarding their efficacy, the lack of transparency in the research data and interpretation,” Dr Coleman writes.

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Addendum 3: Australian Doctor article by Serkan Ozturk

GP unrepentant over vaccination views

Serkan Ozturk | 11 November, 2015

A vaccination-sceptic GP says he is unafraid of a visit from AHPRA over his controversial views that “spirituality” may be a weapon in reducing communicable disease.

Tuggerah GP Dr Kevin Coleman has told Australian Doctor that he stands by his comments made in a submission to the Senate inquiry looking into the Federal Government’s proposed ‘no jab, no pay’ Bill.

“I am concerned about this legislation. It is vexatious in my view. I don’t think we should be coercing or forcing parents into medical procedures of any kind,” Dr Coleman told Australian Doctor.

“That’s what we fought two world wars for – to preserve our freedoms.

“I really don’t care if AHPRA come after me for my views. I think if the medical establishment was doing its job – which it’s not – we would have independent outcomes about vaccines.

“Unfortunately medicine has got such a cosy relationship with big business and the pharmaceutical industry that it has lost its boundary.”

In his submission, the former Western NSW public health unit employee, who was once “in charge” of vaccinations and communicable diseases, claimed that not only could spirituality help lower rates of disease, but that vaccines themselves were likely contributing to a range of health problems affecting modern societies.

“We’re vaccinating ourselves into a very dangerous situation where we are sabotaging our natural immunity,” Dr Coleman told Australian Doctor.

“What we have now, because of successive vaccination campaigns, is a situation where mums are becoming pregnant and they don’t have that advantage of that early infection during their own childhood. So there is no trans-placental transfer of immunity.”

Dr Coleman said he felt sorry for doctors who might scoff at his suggestion that spirituality had any significant part to play in driving down disease.

“A lot of us, I would say, when we’re in the shit and sweating on it out the back of buggery, would say our prayers. And sometimes those prayers are answers. That’s my view and I’ll stand by it,” he said.

“We’re talking about ‘psychoneuro’ immunology. Meditation and yoga – these spiritual disciplines we know that they enhance health. I would say that there is a place for prayer.”

When prompted by Australian Doctor, Dr Coleman said his own children had been vaccinated but argued that it was in a “different context”.

“It was yonks ago in rural South Africa, where there are high rates of HIV and TB,” he said.

“I think that vaccinating children and having collateral damage without good data – and we know that the industry is not providing open access to data – well, I think that is institutionalised abuse.”

Dr Coleman, who in his submission described himself as “not anti-vaccination across the board”, also said that he had in recent months attended protest rallies organised by the anti-vaccination group, the Australian Vaccination-Skeptics Network (AVN).

When asked whether he believed vaccines caused autism, Dr Coleman said it was possible.

“It may well be that vaccines may be part of the problem in terms of causing autism,” he said.

“We don’t know as we don’t have the data. We need research and long-term studies. We need to apply the science in an independent way. It needs to have distance from the pharmaceutical industry.”

In 2010, Dr Coleman was the subject of disciplinary action by the Medical Board after he was found guilty of undertaking a breast examination on a female patient without consent.

Despite that finding, Dr Coleman said he was prepared to fight for his views to be heard.

“The problem of bullying and the lack of ethics starts right at the top with the Australian Medical Board and it trickles down,” he said. “I’m prepared to own that.

“In the earlier part of my career, I would have been very appalled by what I’m saying now. But I’ve had a chance to back off and reflect on what’s going on here and look more closely at the data.”

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Anti-vaccine chiropractors 65 – another CAA AVN supporter

[Originally published as Anti-vaccine chiropractors
redux 15 – another CAA AVN supporter]

Over two years ago, on August 8 2013, the Chiropractic Board of Australia issued a press release announcing it was “cracking down” on anti-vaccination misinformation from chiropractors:

The Chiropractic Board of Australia cracks down to protect the public.

The Chiropractic Board of Australia is cracking down on chiropractors who step outside their primary role as healthcare practitioners and provide treatment that puts the public at risk.

To protect public safety, the Board has:

  • ordered practitioners to remove all anti-vaccination material from their websites and clinics
  • removed several courses from the list of approved CPD programs, and
  • introduced random audits of practitioner compliance with the Board’s registration standards.

And, yet, here we are.

Today’s star is Stacy Budlender, who operates a business called Caulfield Family Chiropractic, in Melbourne. Budlender is a member of the Chiropractors’ Association of Australia, the Gonstead Society, and the US anti-vaccination chiropractic pediatric organisation, the ICPA. From Health Engine:

Budlender 20 CAA ICPA Gonstead member Health Engine

Alarmingly, Budlender’s website states that she treats the following:

Ear Infections

ADHD Management

Bed Wetting

Colic

Chronic Fatigue

Budlender 29 website list of conditions ADHD bedwetting ear infect colic

Just over one month ago Budlender’s website also claimed that chiropractic was used to treat autism. I would say that Twitter put an end to this bio page, which no longer exists:

Budlender 12 autistic childtren

Budlender uses both her business Facebook page, as well as her Facebook profile, to conduct her business and promote chiropractic; as we can see from these screenshots:

Budlender 2 Caulfield chiro profile

And:

Budlender 3 profile Caulfield

Only yesterday, November 24 2015, we found Budlender rallying support against the new No Jab No Pay legislation – I’m guessing – on the Facebook page of the disgraced anti-vaccination organisation, the Australian Vaccination-skeptics Network. As you can see, hovering over her name reveals her trade, and her business:

should we be posting our opposition on the governments facebook page? I have voted liberal til now, never again.

Budlender 13 AVN comment Nov 24 2015

On October 8 2015, Budlender asked an astonishing question on the AVN page:

Where could I find information on vaccine induced strokes. A 13 month old had multiple strokes and wondering if there’s a connection?

Budlender 1 AVN info request

In 2011, Budlender liked this IMCV anti-vaccine post on the AVN page. The now broken link leads with this text:

The needle nuts are at it again…

Budlender 17 2011 like AVN

“Needle nuts”. It still cracks me up, four years later.

And even back in 2010, Budlender was making astonishing anti-vaccine claims in support of the AVN:

Budlender 18 2010 AVN op

Stacy Budlender Thankfully I have a wholistic gp who has no probs with not vacc. We have the most problems with the inlaws who say we are jeopardizing our sons life and it’s illegal not to vacc. That we can’t imagine the risks we’re placing on this poor innocent child blah blah!! They don’t want to know the truth, can’t even finish a sentence. Very frustrating considering her son and other grandchild r typical cases of long term vacc affects. Asthma, eczema, allergies, chrojns, colitis, diabetes and learning disorders!!

Budlender 19 AVN 2010

Meanwhile, over on Budlender’s profile we see the anti-vaccine propaganda flowing, Firstly we see the lies about Gardasil:

Budlender 14 profile Gardasil kills

We also see unsubstantiated stories of alleged vaccine harm being treated as fact:

Budlender 15 Rage aginst the vaccines

Across many of Budlender’s online fora I allege several substantial breaches of the Code of Conduct, the Guidelines for advertising regulated health services, and the Social Media Policy of the CBA. I will add a series of commonly breached sections of the previous at the end of this post, for ease of future access.

This section has been removed from Budlender’s website, so no longer applies:

Budlender 9 website ear infections colds bedwetting tonsilitis etc

There are, however, still many breaches – similar to the above – on Budlender’s Facebook page.

The increase in autism diagnoses, without identifying that the main reason for the increase is better identification and a broadening of criteria:

Budlender 6 autism

Questionable claims from the ICPA about pregnancy and chiropractic care:

Budlender 10 ICPA pregnant women

The cell phone meme:

Budlender 11 phone reception sublux

Chiropractic treatment of ear infections:

Budlender 21 CFC ear infections

Adjusting a child. Why? What is this treatment for?

Budlender 22 video child adjustment

Again, what reason – using reputable evidence – is there for babies to be treated by a chiropractor, because the baby is “not feeling great”? Why is this marketing allowed in a regulated health profession?

Budlender 23 baby dress ups

This post is just outrageous:

A few times a week I often get asked why I adjust newborn babies and kids…

The simple answer is birth can be extremely traumatic!
Our children have more physical, chemical and emotional stress then ever before in the history of mankind.

I often see babies with difficulty nursing, who suffer from reflux, colic and constipation, children with chronic respiratory and ear infections. Even kids with Autism, behavioral issues and ADHD. Even a vaginal birth can be very traumatic to baby! With kids these days, the sky’s the limits. We have sicker kids today then ever before.

This is why Dr Stacy has completed Post grad studies in Paeds and now Dr Jake is starting his own Post grad Paed course.

Everyone should have their baby checked by a chiropractor who specializes in pediatric care. Your children deserve it. For more information, please check out our website

Budlender 24 ADHD autism birth trauma etc

Ah, yes; Palmer’s Wager: can you really afford not to believe in the power of the innate? Are you really going to gamble on your child’s health, by not seeing a chiropractor?

Budlender 26 nerve function babies

Why is this child being adjusted, and used for chiropractic cradle-to-grave marketing? What is the evidence base for this?

Budlender 28 daughter adjustment

More claims that chiropractic can treat ear infections:

Budlender 30 ear infections 2014

Over on Budlender’s profile we see the claim that chiropractic adjustments of subluxations can treat asthma:

Budlender 16 profile asthma cured by chiro

Testimonials also  come in many forms. They are illegal. The chiropractor has a duty to have them removed from view.

Budlender 4 testimonial

Who gives themselves 5 Stars?

Budlender 5 gave self 5 stars

This is online marketing. This is a testimonial:

Budlender 25 testimonial photo chronic symptoms

This is a customer featuring in or making a claim about the service.This is a testimonial:

Budlender 31 baby crawling photo testimonial 2014

This link to a YouTube testimonial is against the law:

Budlender 7 YT video testimonial

And this link to another YouTube testimonial video is against the law:

Budlender 27 YT reviews vid testimonials July

Thanks for  reading.

As stated above, here’s a general list of common breaches from which the reader can pick, should they wish to lodge a complaint over anything they’ve read today:

Code of conduct for chiropractors.

1.2 Professional values and qualities

[Practitioners] have a duty to keep their skills and knowledge up to date, refine and develop their clinical judgement as they gain experience, and contribute to their profession.

All practitioners have a responsibility to recognise and work within the limits of their competence, scope and areas of practice. Areas of practice vary according to different roles; for example, health practitioners, education providers, researchers and managers will all have quite different competencies and scopes of practice.

2.1 Providing good care. Introduction

a. appropriately assessing the patient, taking into account their history (history includes relevant psychological, social and cultural aspects), views and conducting an appropriate physical examination

b. ensuring that the diagnosis/clinical impression is appropriate, relevant, justifiable and based on sound clinical reasoning

d. formulating and implementing a reasonable management plan (including providing treatment/care and advice and, where relevant, arranging investigations and liaising with other treating practitioners)

2.2 Good practice

a. recognising and working within the limits of the chiropractor’s competence and scope and area of practice, which may change over time

b. maintaining adequate knowledge and skills to provide safe and effective care, including providing treatment/care and advice and where relevant, arranging investigations and liaising with, or referring to, other health professionals

e. considering the balance of benefit and harm in all clinical management decisions

g. providing treatment/care options based on the best available information and practising in an evidence-based context and not being influenced by financial gain or incentives

h. ensuring that services offered are provided with the best possible skill, care and competence

m. ensuring that the chiropractor’s personal views do not adversely affect the care of their patients, and

n. evaluating practice and the decisions made and action taken in providing good care.

3.4 Confidentiality and privacy

b. seeking consent from patients before disclosing or sharing information

g. ensuring that all staff are aware of the need to respect the confidentiality and privacy of patients and refrain from discussing patients in a non-professional context

j. ensuring that use of social media and e-health is consistent with the practitioner’s ethical and legal obligations to protect privacy

3.5 Informed consent

b. providing an explanation of the treatment/care recommended, its likely duration, expected benefits and cost, any alternative(s) to the proposed care, their relative risks/benefits, as well as the likely consequences of no care

c. obtaining informed consent or other valid authority before undertaking any examination or investigation, providing treatment/care (this may not be possible in an emergency) or involving patients in teaching or research, including providing information on material risks

3.6 Informed financial consent

a. ensuring that any financial agreement is based on the clinical needs of the patient

3.7 Children and young people

b. placing the interests and wellbeing of the child or young person first

d. ensuring informed consent to providing care for children involves the patient’s parent and/or guardian being provided with clinically relevant information for the chiropractic management of the child; unless a chiropractor judges that a child is of sufficient age and mental and emotional capacity to give their own consent to a service and relevant state and territory laws are complied with

e. ensuring that risks of care and alternatives to care are sufficiently explained as these are essential elements of informed consent

4.1 Use of diagnostic and therapeutic modalities in chiropractic practice

a. a full and thorough assessment of patients using tools, tests and procedures that are appropriate for the gathering of information necessary to form a reasonable diagnosis or clinical impression

c. only using diagnostic tools, tests and procedures in accordance with established protocols for their appropriate use

d. evaluating and reporting the data obtained in a contextual way to ensure that a reasonable and relevant diagnosis/clinical impression is formed, and that appropriate and necessary care is provided

e. when using tools, tests and procedures in formulating a diagnosis/clinical impression, management plan and/or for prognostic purposes, the tools used should be for conditions where there are demonstrated acceptable levels of reliability and validity, and

f. not misrepresenting the clinical value or significance of the findings of any tool, test or procedure.

5.1 Respect for colleagues and other practitioners

b. acknowledging and respecting the contribution of all practitioners involved in patient care

6.4 Public health matters

a. understanding the principles of public health, including health education, health promotion, disease prevention, and control and screening

b. participating in efforts to promote the health of the community and being aware of obligations in disease prevention, including screening and reporting notifiable diseases where relevant

6.5 Provision of care in a healthcare facility

Good practice involves:

a. seeking permission to access and provide care

b. adhering to and following the policies and procedures of the facility

c. communicating effectively with other practitioners involved in the management of the patient

d. keeping the the facility informed of any care

e. ensuring professional indemnity insurance (PII) coverage to cover care in that facility, and

f. keeping adequate records.

9.6 Advertising

a. complying with the National Board’s Advertising guidelines and relevant state and territory legislation and Commonwealth law.

b. making sure that any information published about services is factual and verifiable

10.2 Chiropractors’ health

c. understanding the principles of immunisation against communicable diseases

 

Guidelines for advertising regulated health services

6.2 Prohibited advertising under the National Law

Section 133 of the National Law prohibits advertising that:

  • is false, misleading or deceptive or is likely to be so
  • offers a gift, discount or other inducement to attract a user of the health service without stating the terms and conditions of the offer
  • uses testimonials or purported testimonials
  • creates an unreasonable expectation of beneficial treatment, and/or
  • encourages the indiscriminate or unnecessary use of health services.

6.2.1 Misleading or deceptive advertising

Section 133 of the National Law states:

1. A person must not advertise a regulated health service, or a business that provides a regulated health service, in a way that –

a. Is false, misleading or deceptive or is likely to be misleading or deceptive

Eg:

– mislead, either directly, or by implication, use of emphasis, comparison, contrast or omission

– only provide partial information which could be misleading

– imply that the regulated health services can be a substitute for public health vaccination or immunisation

– advertise the health benefits of a regulated health service when there is no proof that such benefits can be attained, and/or

– compare different regulated health professions or practitioners, in the same profession or across professions, in a way that may mislead or deceive.

6.2.2 Gifts and discounts

Section 133 of the National Law states:

1. A person must not advertise a regulated health service, or a business that provides a regulated health service, in a way that –

b. Offers a gift, discount or other inducement to attract a person to use the service or the business, unless the advertisement also states the terms and conditions of the offer

Advertising may contravene the National Law when it:

– contains price information that is inexact

– contains price information that does not specify any terms and conditions or variables to an advertised price, or that could be considered misleading or deceptive

– states an instalment amount without stating the total cost (which is a condition of the offer), and/or

– does not state the terms and conditions of offers of gifts, discounts or other inducements.

6.2.3 Testimonials

Section 133 of the National Law states:

1. A person must not advertise a regulated health service, or a business that provides a regulated health service, in a way that –

c. Uses testimonials or purported testimonials about the service or business

6.2.4 Unreasonable expectation of beneficial treatment

Section 133 of the National Law states:

1. A person must not advertise a regulated health service, or a business that provides a regulated health service, in a way that –

d. Creates an unreasonable expectation of beneficial treatment

6.2.5 Encouraging indiscriminate or unnecessary use of health services

Section 133 of the National Law states:

1. A person must not advertise a regulated health service, or a business that provides a regulated health service, in a way that –

e. Directly or indirectly encourages the indiscriminate or unnecessary use of regulated health services

 

Social media policy

When using social media, health practitioners should remember that the National Law, their National Board’s code of ethics and professional conduct (the Code of conduct) and the Guidelines for advertising regulated health services (the Advertising guidelines) apply.

Registered health practitioners should only post information that is not in breach of these obligations by:

  • complying with professional obligations
  • complying with confidentiality and privacy obligations (such as by not discussing patients or posting pictures of procedures, case studies, patients, or sensitive material which may enable patients to be identified without having obtained consent in appropriate situations)
  • presenting information in an unbiased, evidence-based context, and
  • not making unsubstantiated claims.

Additional information may be available from professional bodies and/or employers, which aims to support health practitioners’ use of social media. However, the legal, ethical, and professional obligations that registered health practitioners must adhere to are set out in the National Boards’ respective Code of conduct and the Advertising guidelines.

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Tristan Wells of the AVN calls for the execution of vaccine workers

On June 23 2015 I wrote a post highlighting the violent rhetoric and the incitement of violence – using the dehumanisation of public health advocates, journalists, and politicians – which is common in the anti-vaccination and anti-fluoride movements. Please see:

Beware the violent antis – Lismore Mayor physically assaulted

Tristan Wells (AKA Punter) of Canberra is one of the leading lights of the Australian Vaccination-skeptics Network. He has been the darling of past-presidents Meryl Dorey and Greg Beattie for as long as I’ve known of the anti-vaccination cabal.

In 2012, Greg Beattie told us that one of the highlights of the AVN’s 2012 road trip to self-destruction was meeting the “brilliant Punter”:

Wells 12 Beattie August 23 2012 brilliant Punter Dorey blog post comment

Funnily enough, it was in the same AVN blog post comments section as Beattie’s fawning comment, above – also on August 23 2012 – that Wells made this comment; which was also, coincidentally, the precise moment I stopped taking Wells seriously:

For the record I don’t think anybody spreads any disease to anybody

And pertinent to today’s subject, note Wells is also claiming to be one of the victims of the evil pharmocracy, along with his bullied anti-vaccine brethren:

You know that you can bully us with relative impunity and you like to bully people – so that is what you do. If you could bully other groups of people who questioned your cherished beliefs with the same impunity you would happily bully them too.

Wells 13 August 23 2012 nobody spreads disease to anybody bullying Dorey blog post comment

To show the depth of the feeling of arrogant certainty which exists inside the poor, persecuted Australian anti-vaccination cult, one need only look at this Wellsian pearler, from April 25 2013; made on the AVN Facebook page:

One day, the whole of Australia will recognise how incredibly brave and true you are [Meryl Dorey]

AVN 6252 Dorey Wells brave and true

Dorey responds, in all her omnipotent, magnanimous glory:

I’m no hero Tristan Wells – though I thank you so much for saying so 🙂  I believe with every fiber of my being, that natural justice will one day see these people held accountable for their actions.
Meryl

Which, when I glaze over, looks like this. Every single time:

Nixon

Only recently Tristan Wells has been on the end of some serious laughter for these comments. Made on October 2015, in the anti-vaccine cesspit, Vaccine Resistance Movement, Wells lets the freak flag fly high in a stiff breeze:

Nobody *catches* anything. Disease cannot be spread from person to person – if it could doctors would have the lifespan of a fruitfly.

And this keeper:

diarrheoa is the resolution of “not being able to digest trauma”

Wells 5 VRM digetion trauma no one catches any disease

So, there have been several indications, for many years, that it is pointless debating with Wells. He is a proponent of German New Medicine; a germ theory denialist beyond reason. And he is vicious.

This is what Wells had to say about public health champions Catherine and Greg Hughes, the parents of baby Riley,  who passed away from whooping cough in March 2015:

Just because an evil  fascist has gone through a tragedy doesn’t magically make them not evil fascists

Wells 7 Hughes family evil fascists August 24 2015

Remember, this is the same Catherine Hughes who was just recently awarded with the 2016 Western Australian Young Australian of the Year.

On November 21 2015 – only last weekend – at the Canberra anti-vaccine protest, Wells ramped it up another notch. Long-time member of Stop the Australian (anti) Vaccination Network, retired solicitor, John Bundock, was accosted and abused by Wells – who was appropriately dressed in the yellow hat and shirt – for simply turning up to watch the anti-vaccine event. Wells told John that he was a child abuser:

Wells 8 Canberra protest3

But, yesterday, November 23 2015, on the 7 News Melbourne Facebook page, Tristan Wells finally turned into The Taliban. In response to news of the passing of the No Jab No Pay legislation, in our parliament, Wells advocated murder:

Disgusting fascist policy. And the people who support it are all child abusers.

The fact is that nobody would ever subject themselves to the equivalent (weight adjusted) dose of what babies are expected to get.

Everybody expects babies to receive a dose that they would be petrified of taking themselves. Vaccines are pure evil and all those involved in this disgusting criminal enterprise should be executed 

Wells 10 vaccine workers should be executed 7 News Melb Nov 23 2015

And, at the time of writing, 46 people agree with Wells:

Wells 15 7 News execute liked by 46 people

And here they are:

Wells 16 likers of execution comment

People Who Like This

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Update November 25 2015

Sandy Gottstein’s lawyer threatens  me with defamation. Via email:

Incorrect Blog Entry

In a recent posting on your blog you discuss an individual named Tristan Wells and list 46 people who are said to have “liked” one of Mr. Wells’ postings.  Included in that list is the name of my client, Sandy Gottstein.

Ms. Gottstein did not “like” Mr. Wells’ posting and does not agree with it.  If information you obtained  indicates otherwise, it is incorrect.  Because the statement on your blog suggesting that Ms. Gottstein agrees with Mr. Wells’ comments is incorrect and defamatory, we request that you remove her name from the list and your posting.

I assume that her inclusion on the list was an inadvertent error, but with the information I am providing to you, your continuing to list her on your blog would be intentional, seriously defamatory, and actionable.  If necessary, we would take such legal steps as are necessary to ensure that her name is removed and seek all available forms of legal remedy.  I certainly hope that is not required.

If you need any further information or have any questions about this request, please let me know.  If not, please advise when Ms. Gottstein’s name has been removed from your blog.

Thank you for your anticipated cooperation.

Jeff Feldman

Response to Jeff Feldman from reasonablehank.com

Hi,

I won’t be removing Sandy’s name. She features in this screenshot taken of the list of likers.

http://reasonablehank.com/2015/11/24/tristan-wells-of-the-avn-calls-for-the-execution-of-vaccine-workers/wells-16-likers-of-execution-comment/

The list is a direct copypaste of the whole list of people who liked Wells’ call for the execution of health workers.

So the blog entry is not “incorrect”.

I will add her disclaimer and your email threatening defamation action to the blog post.

Thank you for your time.

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Esther Rockett needs our help to raise funds to fight cult censorship

Esther Rockett has been a vocal, legitimate critic of the cult, Universal Medicine, for a few years. Esther’s concerns about the conduct of the cult are based on her personal experience whilst undergoing what she describes as a disturbing treatment session from Serge Benhayon, the leader of Universal Medicine. The more Esther investigated, the worse it got.

Esther

The cult has done its best to destroy Esther’s life – and the lives of others who have spoken out against the cult – attempting to have her de-registered as a health care practitioner; attempting to have her arrested for online bullying; mercilessly pursuing her and defaming her across a wide range of internet fora; and now the latest tactic, the SLAPP action (Strategic Lawsuit Against Public Participation). From Wikipedia:

A strategic lawsuit against public participation (SLAPP) is a lawsuit that is intended to censor, intimidate, and silence critics by burdening them with the cost of a legal defense until they abandon their criticism or opposition.

To help Esther, please read and share. From Esther’s blog post:

Cult leader, Serge Benhayon, is suing me for defamation, claiming I’ve damaged his reputation. A hearing is set down for December 11, 2015 in the Supreme Court – Civil, Sydney.

Donate to my legal defence fund at:
OzCrowd – Esther Rockett legal defence.

More details at my blog:
Help fund Esther’s legal defence.

Follow the case on Facebook, or
follow me on Twitter, @EstherRockett 

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Read how the cult, Universal Medicine, has vilified members of the community, and journalist Jane Hansen. Excerpts from The Sunday Telegraph, September 28 2015:

Jane Hansen: How Universal Medicine bullied me

Universal Medicine…closely guards its reputation, employing an internet reputation manager to have some critical blogs and media stories wiped from the internet and mount personal attacks on others who report on or complain about the group.

In the beginning, Serge Benhayon was a tennis coach, and a bankrupt, when he had what he calls ‘an energetic impress’ while sitting on the toilet in 1999.

Universal Medicine was born: its creator made up treatments like esoteric breast massage, ovarian massage and chakra puncture.

Mr Benhayon has no medical qualifications.

Lacking certification, Mr Benhayon set up the Esoteric Practitioners Association so his own students, who pay to learn the techniques from the College of Universal Medicine, can graduate with certification from his EPA.

Mr Benhayon said in a television interview that he made about $2 million a year from his courses and retreats.

In the same interview, he claimed to be the reincarnation of Leonardo da Vinci…

In another book, Mr Benhayon claims that autism and Down syndrome are karma for past life sins…

When Ms Rockett — an acupuncturist — moved to Byron Bay late last year, an unnamed registrant bought the domain name acupuncturebyronbay.com.

When you Google for an acupuncturist in Byron, up comes the site, which warns people to avoid Esther Rockett.

“Byron Bay Locals Be Warned” the site says above a big picture of Rockett, whom it describes as ‘a cyber-bully’.

The signed names at the bottom of the site include several Universal Medicine members, but this is not disclosed.

“It’s an attack on my livelihood, I’m an individual with legitimate complaints and they are (part of) a multi-million dollar corporation,” Ms Rockett said, adding she could not afford to take defamation action.

The group has managed to have her Facebook shut down and Ms Rockett believes they may also have been responsible for her Twitter account being suspended.

She has received 150 notifications from Twitter that her account “may be suspended” for “abusive behaviour”…

Serge Benhayon and UM have also hired Internet Reputation Australia, associated with private investigator group Phoenix Global [edit: see this disturbing ABC story for more on Phoenix Global and its head, Mick Featherstone], to have critical blogs and posts about Universal Medicine removed from the net.

A total of 36 blogs have been removed. It also managed to have links to television stories, ABC radio reports and newspaper articles critical of UM, including stories by this journalist, removed from the internet.

“I have hired an Internet Reputation Group to assist in the removal of the lies and the offending material on the Internet,” Mr Benhayon said in response to our questions…

Lance Martin, a Bangalow-based businessman, has also been labelled a cyber-bully for airing his story where he alleged his marriage failed as a result of the group’s interference.

He has since been accused of being an abusive partner, which he vehemently denies, and his former business, an online hotel booking site, suffered after online publications repeating the allegation became associated with the name of the business.

“By keyword loading on the business name they attached these blogs about me and they do a lot of link sharing on Twitter and Facebook, whoever they are attacking and then Google starts ranking them higher and higher until it’s the first thing that came up when you googled my business.

“The blogs intimated I was an abusive husband, which is contrary to the facts.”

He had to close down the business.

And Jane Hansen writes of her own distasteful, ugly vilification by the cult, Universal Medicine:

Last June, I wrote a piece about Universal Medicine in The Sunday Telegraph.

The Office of Liquor, Gaming & Racing had received an official complaint regarding $500,000 Universal Medicine had raised using a charity licence to build the College of Universal Medicine on Serge Benhayon’s land.

LGA found it wasn’t their area of responsibility and dismissed the complaint.

Mr Benhayon was offered an interview but chose to not answer the questions in favour of berating me for posing them.

“If you are going to pillory me, as have the other scurrilous journalists before you, lies they chose to tell the public, why do you need me to comment?” he wrote.

After the article went to print, “The Facts” team turned their attention to me.

Google “Jane Hansen journalist” now and the first thing that comes up is a hate blog from UM berating my ability as a journalist, lack of integrity complete with claims I have a “murky past”.

They even used the death of my eight-month-old son in 2004 as ammunition against me.

“But would this life-changing moment signify fundamental change in how she works? Would it mean that she would take action to arrest harm if it would get in the way of a good story?”

Serge Benhayon tweeted this particular blog on the morning of the 10th anniversary of my son’s death – an incredibly painful day despite the years

Jane Hansen continues:

They accuse everyone one else of cyber bullying while embarking on a systematic, online pack hunt says Ira McClure who went public last year with her dealing with UM.

She has been vilified since with numerous comments from members.

“Ira McClure, absolute shame and disgust on you too to have enjoined this hunt of evil and wickedness against Truth and Love,” one member writes.

Ms McClure has seen her medical conditions discussed openly in the blogs by members she has never met.

“These vicious comments sicken and disgust me as they are from people who are ignorant of the facts. This journey has been riddled with many distressing events and these people with their twisted and bullying comments are just the icing on the cake,” she said.

Mr Benhayon said to his knowledge Ira McClure had never received any Universal Medicine treatments, yet The Sunday Telegraph has viewed her receipts from the practitioner she saw. She has taken her complaint to the Health Care Complaints Commission.

Mr Benhayon also denied any involvement in the blogs written by The Facts team saying “they are not ‘written on direction’ by me” he said, before defending the group’s right to do so…

Although Serge Benhayon denies he directs his ‘Facts Team’ on what to write, the Sunday Telegraph’s email sent directly to his address on Thursday March 5 was posted on “The Facts” site shortly after with six more blogs including “Jane Hansen Revenge Trail” and “Jane Hansen and Junk Food Journalism” complete with over 600 comments on my lack of integrity and professionalism.

The editor of this paper also received dozens of emails accusing us of being liars.

Please help, if you can. We cannot allow legitimate public criticism to be censored by cashed-up thugs wielding expensive defamation cases. We must help Esther fight this action.

Donate at: OzCrowd – Esther Rockett legal defence 

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Flinders University nursing lecturer an anti-vaccine, anti-fluoride activist

We often wonder how it comes to pass that so many nurses and midwives end up being anti-vaccine activists. How does someone who goes through a whole university course of evidence-based learning end up rejecting the evidence behind immunisation? It boggles the mind, it does.

On November 16 2015 the 7 News Queensland Facebook page posted a whooping cough health alert:

HEALTH WARNING: A Whopping Cough alert has been issued for Brisbane.

DETAILS: The Metro South Public Health Unit has warned of an increased number of whooping cough (Pertussis) cases recently diagnosed in the greater Brisbane area, with a number of babies afflicted with the disease.

The following vaccinations are recommended:

– The standard childhood immunisation program (started from 6 weeks of age) including the four year old booster dose, followed by a Year 8 booster as part of the School Immunisation Program
– An additional vaccination at 18 months to boost immunity
– All pregnant women at 28 weeks of each pregnancy, provided free of charge
– A booster for those close to infants or young children if it has been 10 years since last receiving a dose.

It’s important to see your GP early if there were concerns about a family member having whooping cough.

For more information, contact 13 HEALTH (13 43 25 84) or visit: http://conditions.health.qld.gov.au/HealthCondition/condition/14/33/150/Whooping-Cough-Pertussis

Good stuff, you would think. The public needs to know about whooping cough outbreaks. Only in the last couple of days we have seen two separate stories, including confronting videos, regarding babies who are suffering from the hideous disease. The two mums who recorded the videos – Rebecca Harreman and Jade Lewis – deserve our thanks for capturing just how awful this disease can be. They are wonderful  public health advocates. They are the sort of public health advocates you would hope all evidence-based health practitioners would aspire to be.

Well. Not quite.

On that 7 News Brisbane Facebook thread we find these rabid anti-vaccination comments:

Christine Palmer Unvaccinated children do not cause childhood illnesses.

Christine Palmer I am an educated health professional who has read far more widely than you could imagine. Do the reading yourself before you accuse others of ignorance.

Christine Palmer I have done everything for my child Melissa. My beautiful 22 year old daughter has never been vaccinated and is rarely sick. Vaccinations are not just harmful for a range of reasons, they are insidious in their impact on natural immunity. We have been taught that germs and illness are to be avoided but they’re extremely important to the strengthening of our immune systems. A recent study even revealed that people who hand wash their dishes have stronger immunity than people who use dishwashers. That was scientific research …

Palmer 1 7 News Queensland Facebook page

Okay. We’re intrigued. Christine Palmer claims to be an “educated health professional who has read far more widely than you could imagine.” Luckily we can find out immediately what she is talking about. This is what happens when you hover over her name:

Palmer 2 7 News Qld Flinders Lecturer shown

A “Lecturer in Nursing at Flinders University”. Palmer’s about page tells us more:

Flinders University
Lecturer in Nursing · Adelaide, South Australia
Have returned to teaching and research in mental health nursing. I provide Clinical Supervision for other mental health nurses and teach Clinical Supervision too.

Queensland University of Technology
Diploma of Applied Science – Nursing Education · Master of Nursing · Bachelor of Nursing ·Brisbane, Australia

University of South Australia
PhD · Adelaide, South Australia

Palmer 2 profile about Flinders lecturer

You read that correctly. “PhD.” Dr Christine Palmer is a lecturer in mental health nursing at Flinders University. She is the course coordinator, no less:

Biography

I joined the School of Nursing and Midwifery 16th June 2014. I moved to Adelaide from Brisbane where, for the past 6.5 years I worked as a credentialed mental health nurse in private practice. This work was collaborative with General Practitioners and Psychiatrists and also autonomous in the provision of mental health care to people in the primary care setting, largely within their homes.

In the past I have held academic positions with the Queensland University of Technology in Brisbane and with Massey University in Auckland, New Zealand. I am passionate about mental health nursing as a specialty and also as a necessary skill for undergraduate nursing students in all areas of practice.

Qualifications

Credentialed Mental Health Nurse; DipAppSc-NEd; BAppSc-Nursing; MNursing; PhD

Key responsibilities

Co-ordinator for NURS9539 Mental Health Nursing Practice I and NURS9533 Primary Health Care for Mental Health.

I will also be involved in the teaching of NURS1007 Dimensions of Physical and Mental Health.

Palmer 5 Flinders University biography

Oh boy. I’ve got nothing. Except this:

Please read this information. This is an excellent summary of the facts.

Palmer 3 anti fluoride

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Update November 18 2015

Some hours after this blog post was published, Flinders University commented in the comments section under this post; on Twitter, and on the 7 News Brisbane Facebook thread in question.

Comments under this blog post:

Flinders 2 comment on RH and reply

Tweets:

Palmer 8 tweets Flinders university

7 News Brisbane Facebook thread:

Christine Palmer Just by the way, my well informed views on vaccination are my own and not the views of my employer. As an academic I have the right to express my views in a public forum as a private citizen 🙂

Flinders University All Flinders staff have the right to advise their view publicly on any matters of public interest provided it is clear they do so in their capacity as private citizens. Where this is not clear, staff are asked to ensure that any ambiguity is removed by emphasizing that comments are made in their private capacity. Flinders University is committed to evidence-based teaching. The University expects its lecturers to adhere to the endorsed curriculum which is based on accepted scientific standards. The University is confident that this expectation is being fulfilled in its Nursing program.

Palmer 6 7 News thread cont Flinders

We can see that Christine Palmer doubles-down on her anti-vaccine claims, and shows absolutely no contrition for them. The reader can see that Palmer’s Facebook profile still shows her Flinders University affiliations, even after the Flinders University places its disclaimer underneath her comments:

Palmer 7 still shows Flinders lecturer after Flinders comment

Palmer then refers to her academic position whilst making a Big Pharma Gambit:

Christine Palmer I have assignments to mark. I suggest you do some reading yourself … beyond the research funded by pharmaceutical companies.

Palmer 9 7 News FB cont

 

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UNIVERSITY OF WOLLONGONG ANTIVAX PHD STUDENT CHAMPIONS NEONATAL HAEMORRHAGING

Of all the anti-vaccine lies; of all the perfidy of the anti-vaccination movement; of all the direct threats to public health they pose; those who argue against the administration of neonatal Vitamin K are right up there amongst the most heinous.

In 2012 an Australian infant died because her parents refused Vitamin K. From The Courier Mail, January 10 2013:

A BABY girl died from vitamin K deficiency bleeding just 33 days after her parents gave instructions that the newborn child was not to be given any injections or medication, a coroner has found.

Deputy State Coroner Christine Clements has supported a pathologist’s recommendation that future siblings of the baby receive vitamin K, which can prevent bleeding problems in infants.

An investigation into the death of the girl – born in a regional Queensland hospital last year – heard that the mother, 30, wanted an entirely natural birth for her first baby.

Ms Clements said in her findings: “As part of the birthing plan and, in accordance with her parents’ spiritual beliefs, the baby was not administered vitamin K after her birth, or any other medications.”

The parents had made that decision despite being given information at an antenatal visit that newborn babies required vitamin K to prevent bleeding problems in the first few months after birth, the coroner said. She said the pregnancy was uneventful and the baby was born 10 days early in hospital.

The baby was not given vitamin K – nor was she vaccinated for Hepatitis B – before the mother and baby went home a day after the birth. A month later, the mother noticed her baby had been sleeping a lot and was not feeding as much as usual.

In the early hours of the next morning the mother saw the baby was limp and an ambulance was called.

The baby was taken to the nearest hospital and then airlifted to Brisbane’s Mater Hospital, where a CT scan revealed the child had bleeding on the brain, the findings said.

The baby was given plasma and vitamin K, but she died the next day.

After an autopsy a pathologist concluded the cause of death was haemorrhages due to late onset vitamin K deficiency bleeding.

In her December 3 finding, Ms Clements concluded the baby died after suffering extreme bleeding in the brain over a month, due to a lack of vitamin K in her system.

“The baby’s mother had a detailed labour plan and a considered position declining various medications and interventions in the birth process,” she said.

“This included a specific direction not to administer vitamin K to their baby.”

HIDDEN HAZARD FOR BABIES

THE Australian National Health and Medical Research Council recommends that all newborn babies receive vitamin K after birth.

Vitamin K helps the blood to clot and is considered essential for the prevention of bleeding problems in newborn babies.

Babies generally have a low level of vitamin K in their blood, as it is poorly transferred across the placenta. Breast-fed infants are at most risk of developing bleeding through vitamin K deficiency unless supplementary vitamin K is given to them, usually by injection.

Late vitamin K deficient bleeding occurs from eight days to six months after birth, with most affected babies between one and three months and it is almost completely confined to fully breast-fed infants.

On what couldn’t be a more appropriate date – Friday November 13 2015 – University of Wollongong PhD student Judy Wilyman shared a YouTube video from the delusional conspiracy site, Infowars – yes, Alex Jones’ Infowars – on her official Facebook page, Vaccination Choice. The YouTube video is a 20 minute segment taken from Alex Jones’ Prison Planet newscast:

Wilyman 146 Infowars YT

The segment features an interview between a  former pharmaceutical company salesperson – a former salesperson – Brandy Vaughan, who has founded an anti-vaccination organisation for which she is seeking donations – Council for Vaccine Safety – and Prison Planet host, Lee Ann McAdoo.

Look, the whole segment is your stock-standard conspiratorial anti-vaccine screed; replete with the obligatory call for funds, at the end. But, there is one section of the embarrassing segment on which I want to focus: anti-Vitamin K activism.

Here is the video, starting at 4:40. My good friend at Diluted Thinking has very kindly transcribed the pertinent section:

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Remember, as we go through this section: the person who promoted this execrable video has submitted a PhD thesis on immunisation policy under the tutelage of Professor Brian Martin, at the University of Wollongong. Although I’m pretty sure I don’t need to remind the reader how well this has gone for UoW, here is a snippet from an earlier blog post:

The University of Wollongong’s perennial anti-vaccine PhD student, Judy Wilyman, is the great, big hope of Australian anti-vaccinationism.

Does she say “the science” a lot? Tick.

Does she say “the research” a lot? Tick.

Does she vilify bereaved parents with slurs of kickbacks? Tick.

Does she refer to these bereaved parents’ deceased babies as “anecdotes”? Tick.

Does she and her cabal of thugs organise anti-vaccine protests under the disingenuous facade of “pro-choice”; the same thugs having followed her example of vilifying bereaved parents; some of the thugs even claiming that the bereaved parents’ baby did not even exist, as some kind of Big Pharma agenda, a thinly masked sales pitch? Tick.

Does she resent the tag “anti-vaccine”; whilst only providing information which is against vaccination, a lot? Tick.

Perfect! Wilyman is perfect. And the added bonus with Wilyman is that she appears to have the ongoing imprimatur of the University of Wollongong; who in turn would appear to have had the word “disrepute” erased from all of its libraries’ dictionaries.

In 2012 Judy Wilyman’s ugly behaviour, ably supported by Meryl Dorey and Dorey’s anti-vaccine cabal – the disgraced Australian Vaccination-skeptics Network – even made the front page of the local paper, The Illawarra Mercury:

UOW researcher targets grieving parents

Wilyman Illawarra Mercury front page June 11 2012

I don’t need to add anything to the following transcript, so I won’t. It really is that bad. The lead-up to the anti-Vitamin K section featured this image:

Wilyman 149 Prison Planet 4 min 30 intro image

Lee Ann McAdoo (host): And you mentioned the vitamin K which I think is sort of a new thing that all of a sudden now this is something that children on their first day of birth – when they’re born – they need to have this now, all of a sudden. Your son wasn’t given it there in Holland, they didn’t even know about it, so you hadn’t even done a lot of research into why this is being given. But it was interesting here because Rob Dew, our producer, he just had his fourth child, a little girl, and so they wanted to give this vitamin K and he said, “well, talk to me about it, I want to read the insert”. And what they were saying was it’s 100% vitamin K, it’s completely fine, safe and effective – it’s that same talking point, safe and effective – and you actually brought some pretty interesting news to us. So go ahead and talk to us about what was actually going on with this vitamin K.

Brandy Vaughan (Council for Vaccine Safety): Right. Well, luckily it was kind of a random – although I think nothing is random in the world – a conversation with Rob, and I had a nurse send me, just last week, a photo of the box of the vitamin K injection that they give, and then also a different company, she sent a picture of the vial. And this is things that we would never see when we actually go into the doctor’s office, we don’t see, they don’t tell us in the hospital.

Lee Ann  McAdoo: It’s just natural, it’s vitamin K.

Brandy Vaughan: Right. Well, on the box, on one of them [this image shown]…

Wilyman 151 Prison Planet Vitamin K image 1

[Vaughan continues] – ’cause there are two different companies that make it, umm, three, but anyway, this was two of them – the main active ingredient is polysorbate 80 and there are strong links to infertility, to autoimmune issues. Polysorbate 80 is banned in a lot of countries – especially in injectibles – and that’s the main active ingredient in one of the vitamin K solutions. In the other one, on the vial it says, “contains no more than 100 mcg/L of aluminium” [this image shown]…

Wilyman 152 Prison Planet Vitamin K image 2

[Vaughan continues] And you combine that with the hepB shot, which is 250 mcg/L of aluminium, on day one our children are getting 350g, if not more, and this is just unheard of. It blows my mind because aluminium has no place in our body [this image shown]…

Wilyman 153 Prison Planet image 3 toxins gambit

[Vaughan continues] it’s a known neurotoxin. it’s a heavy metal, it’s incredibly difficult to detox from and we’re injecting these into the bloodstream, so it goes straight to the vital organs. It’s not like when you ingest something and 60% of it is filtered out through the kidney and the natural detox process. It goes straight to vital organs. And this is happening on day one. So it’s not surprising that the US leads the developed world in infant mortality rates and day one mortality rates. And we seem to think that we have the best healthcare protocol in the world and you’re not seeing these type of things in other countries. And people need to start questioning this because what I’ve really learned during my research is this is all about profit; it’s not about our health. I mean, how can we believe that it’s about our health when we have the sickest children, we have the sickest generation of children in our country at the moment. You know, things like peanut allergies, peanuts are no longer allowed in schools. You know, all the food allergies, the gut issues, the autoimmune diseases, all of these things that I mentioned. I mean, that is the true epidemic in our country are those diseases and that childhood level of poor health that we have.

Lee Ann  McAdoo: And the cognitive dissonance of the American people to just continue on and say, “well, the doctor says it’s safe and effective.”

Brandy Vaughan: Right.

Lee Ann  McAdoo: …I’ve got to go ahead and just do what the doctor says…

In her recent submission (number 468) to the No Jab No Pay Senate Inquiry, Wilyman concludes that “references can be obtained from my doctoral thesis submitted at the University of Wollongong.” If I was this university I would be trembling behind a rock at the thought that the name “Dr Judy Wilyman” will be forever wed to the University of Wollongong’s name, just like she is doing underneath every single one of her recent newsletters. As if she hasn’t brought enough permanent disrepute to the university.

Maybe when Wilyman has real blood on her hands the University of Wollongong might take this a bit more seriously.

Wilyman 155 digitally altered newspaper front page

Digitally altered image courtesy of my Super Shooper friend

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Update November 15 2015

This post on Brandy Vaughan’s Facebook profile – from the time of her Infowars interview – shows us how much she knows about pharmaceutical manufacture. Vaughan is nothing but a conspiracy theorist who doesn’t understand her topic, so she makes it up:

…some great callers that talked about how toxic the vaccine manufacturing plants are and how full suits are worn even by the janitors that work in the facility…

Vaughan 1 pharma plant

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Anti-vaccine chiropractors 64 – helping the AVN scare and misinform

[Originally published as Anti-vaccine chiropractors
redux 14 – helping the AVN scare and misinform]

Immunisation is a healthcare topic which is outside of the scope of practise for Australian chiropractors. Even the evidence-challenged Chiropractors’ Association of Australia was forced kicking and screaming into making a non-committal policy declaration on the subject, in 2013:

CAA Position Statement on Vaccination

The CAA (National) Board position on vaccination is:

  • Chiropractors do not provide vaccination services;
  • Chiropractors should encourage their patients to make informed health care decisions and to consult their GP in relation to the risks and benefits of vaccination.

– May 4, 2013 CAA National Board Meeting

Chiropractors – like all registered health practitioners – must behave themselves on social media. The Chiropractic Board of Australia’s Social Media Policy states:

When using social media, health practitioners should remember that the National Law, their National Board’s code of ethics and professional conduct (the Code of conduct) and the Guidelines for advertising regulated health services (the Advertising guidelines) apply.

Registered health practitioners should only post information that is not in breach of these obligations by:

  • complying with professional obligations
  • complying with confidentiality and privacy obligations (such as by not discussing patients or posting pictures of procedures, case studies, patients, or sensitive material which may enable patients to be identified without having obtained consent in appropriate situations
  • presenting information in an unbiased, evidence-based context, and
  • not making unsubstantiated claims.

The Chiropractic Board of Australia’s Code of Conduct states:

2.2 Good practice

Maintaining a high level of professional competence and conduct is essential for the good practice of the profession. Good practice involves:

a. recognising and working within the limits of the chiropractor’s competence and scope and area of practice, which may change over time

b. maintaining adequate knowledge and skills to provide safe and effective care, including providing treatment/care and advice and where relevant, arranging investigations and liaising with, or referring to, other health professionals

g. providing treatment/care options based on the best available information and practising in an evidence-based context and not being influenced by financial gain or incentives

h. ensuring that services offered are provided with the best possible skill, care and competence

m. ensuring that the chiropractor’s personal views do not adversely affect the care of their patients, and

n. evaluating practice and the decisions made and action taken in providing good care.

The Code of Conduct continues:

6.4 Public health matters

Chiropractors have a responsibility to promote the health of the community through disease prevention and control, education and, where relevant, screening.

On any public health matter, practitioners are obliged to provide balanced, unbiased and evidence-based information in order to enable members of the public to make informed health decisions. When called upon to provide advice that is beyond their usual area of practice, chiropractors should seek to refer those patients to another practitioner who possess such expertise.

Good practice involves:

a. understanding the principles of public health, including health education, health promotion, disease prevention, and control and screening

b. participating in efforts to promote the health of the community and being aware of obligations in disease prevention, including screening and reporting notifiable diseases where relevant, and

c. carrying out health activities in a public setting in accordance with the National Board’s attached guidelines (see Appendix 1: Guideline in relation to health activities in a public setting).

The Guidelines for advertising regulated health services – to which we will come, when investigating today’s subject’s business website – are governed by The National Law. That is, it is against the law to breach these guidelines:

Section 133 of the National Law regulates advertising of regulated health services. It states:

  1. A person must not advertise a regulated health service, or a business that provides a regulated health service, in a way
    that —

a. is false, misleading or deceptive or is likely to be misleading or deceptive; or

b. offers a gift, discount or other inducement to attract a person to use the service or the business, unless the advertisement also states the terms and conditions of the offer; or

c. uses testimonials or purported testimonials about the service or business; or

d. creates an unreasonable expectation of beneficial treatment; or

e. directly or indirectly encourages the indiscriminate or unnecessary use of regulated health services.

Maximum penalty—

a. in the case of an individual—$5,000; or

b. in the case of a body corporate—$10,000.

I have never seen any fines issued for breaches of The National Law.

Today’s star is Mr Matt Panetta, a registered chiropractor, who runs a business called Pinewood Chiropractic Clinic, in Victoria. Panetta lists his profession and business on his Facebook profile:

Panetta 1 profile chiro

And:

Panetta 1 profile chiro event on wall

Panetta came to our attention when he was holding court on the Facebook page of the disgraced anti-vaccination organisation, the Australian Vaccination-skeptics Network, on November 8 2015. Meryl Dorey posted a home-made flyer which showed the anti-vaccination organisation for what it really is; anti-vaccine:

Now THIS is real cocooning! A family put this on their door for the first month home from hospital with bubs. According to them, it started a lot of respectful conversations and helped their friends and family become better-informed about vaccination. Well done!

MD

Panetta 4 AVN Dorey OP photo

Of course, being an anti-vaccine inspired flyer it completely misrepresents the almost non-existent occurrence of vaccine shedding into a typical anti-vaccine fright-meme. Panetta comments underneath the image (as you can see, hovering over his name immediately brings up his trade and business name):

Matt Panetta 6 weeks only covers the live virus vaccines that have the propensity to shed. Should also keep your child away from those vaccinated for pertussis in the last 2 years or more. If the vaccine affords any protection, it is only against the symptoms. The vaccinated still colonize the bacteria and transmit whooping cough. This is the sole reason for a resurgence in pertussis.

Panetta 3 AVN comment November 2015

But, this is not the first time Panetta has misinformed readers or displayed anti-vaccine hysteria on the AVN Facebook page.

On April 30 2015 Panetta joined in with the delusional AVN admin, Giselle Tonee, in a complete strawman based on the SB277 legislation which succeeded in California:

A possibility for Australia? Along with 300 new vaccines for all your medical conditions -but its all for the public good. And you cannot sue us when your family is damaged. TG

Panetta 17 AVN Tonee SB277 YT vid April 2015

Matt Panetta Medical Fascism!

Panetta 17 AVN April 2015 medical fascism

On April 14 Panetta added some awful comments to another unsubstantiated anti-vaccine story of alleged vaccine harm:

Panetta 11 AVN April 2015 OP

Matt Panetta So when there is a death from pertussis the media and astroturfers have a field day. An opportunistic moment of convenience to slander and blame conscientious objectors! Yet when a death occurs from a vaccine, the suppression of the event and lack of support is nothing short of inhumane.

Panetta 12 April 2015 AVN deaths from whooping cough field day

On April 14 Panetta joined in with more AVN scaremongering; one of Meryl Dorey’s infamous action alerts regarding the proposed No Jab No Pay legislation:

Panetta 16 April 2015 AVN OP NJNP intro

Matt Panetta democratic or draconian society? Heading toward the latter!

Panetta 16 April 2015 AVN NJNP draconian

On September 12 we find that Panetta has liked this AVN post full of discredited claims, which includes a video from the thoroughly disreputable Sherri Tenpenny:

This is a brilliant video – well referenced and incredibly important. If you have only 10 minutes to spare today, spend them watching this. And then, share it with all of those you care about. Your friends, your family, your children, your workmates. It is up to us to be the messengers. Vaccine harm is real. Vaccines deaths and profound injuries do occur. Vaccines do cause autism. If they are angry with you today for sharing this information, they will remember you tried to help them sometime in the future when they, one of their children or a friend’s child is affected by vaccination and the doctors say it was a coincidence. Can you live with yourself if you don’t take this opportunity to share?

MD

Panetta 8 AVN Tenpenny video OP Sept 2015

Astonishing that Panetta would like this video:

Panetta 7 AVN Tenpenny video liked

On September 13 Panetta joined in with a screed from Meryl Dorey, attacking Dr Richard Kidd of the Australian Medical Association (QLD), as well as attacking the safety and efficacy of public immunisation programs:

Who do you think you’re Kidd-ing? How much does your doctor REALLY know about vaccines. Some scary info here

Panetta 9 AVN post Richard Kidd Sept 2015

Matt Panetta Typical pompous attitude doctors have! Disturbing that this represents the majority of vaccine administers. Ignorant of the facts and dismissive of the harm caused. They can’t for a second entertain the notion that inefficacies and major safety issues exist. It is just way too inconvenient. They run on faith and very little real science! Sacrilegious to say the least!

Panetta 9 AVN post Richard Kidd Sept 2015 attack meds

Turning to Panetta’s business website we can see the sorts of non-evidence-based claims he makes about his health service provision. I argue that most of these claims are a clear breach of The National Law and the Code of Conduct:

Chiropractic for Children

The spine can sustain it’s first trauma at birth. Damage can occur by pulling, forcing and twisting of the delicate infants spine during delivery. Modern procedures such as forceps and vacuum extraction can also place tremendous pressure on the spine.

Lacking the ability to express these spinal traumas many newborns will experience health complaints such as colic, reflux, breastfeeding difficulties, sleep disturbances, allergic reactions and chronic infections.

…a chiropractic examination is essential to determine if birth trauma to the spine is involved.

Panetta 5 birth trauma infections allergies colic reflux website

I argue that some of these claims are also a clear breach of The National Law and the Code of Conduct:

Common Conditions that Respond to Chiropractic

  • Low back pain and leg pain/numbness
  • Neck and arm pain/numbness including tennis elbow and carpal tunnel
  • Tension, migraine and cluster headaches
  • Dizziness/vertigo
  • Constipation or diarrhea
  • Bed wetting
  • Ear infections
  • Sinus conditions
  • Allergies and asthma
  • Colic
  • Stomach disorders such as reflux and gastritis
  • Menstrual conditions
  • Pains of pregnancy including morning sickness
  • Extremities and sports injuries

Panetta 6 conditions bedwetting infections allergies website

I would also argue that this advertisement, embedded and linked on Panetta’s website, contains implicit testimonials and is therefore also a breach of The National Law:

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One day these blog posts will no longer be required. It will occur at a time when the Chiropractic Board of Australia takes meaningful, transparent, and substantial action – in accordance with The National Law and its Code of Conduct – so as to rein in these rogue public health menaces. I will not hold my breath.

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